If we support .properties, what is going to be the story for 1.2 users? The
first question will likely be: why can't I use my 1.2 .properties file with
2.0. Even if we do not support 1.2 files, we need to document how to port I
would think.

Gary


On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Paul Benedict <[email protected]> wrote:

> I remember a ticket (dunno which one) being closed out as "Won't Fix" for
> the properties format. Are you gong to reopen it since you're working on
> the feature?
>
>
> Cheers,
> Paul
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 8 June 2014, Remko Popma <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> With xml, you'd wrap all <property ...> tags in a <properties>
>>> encapsulating list element, but perhaps that is not needed in this format?
>>>
>>> So, instead of:
>>> log4j2.properties.property.key=value
>>> we could have:
>>> log4j2.property.key=value
>>>
>>> I like it.
>>
>>
>>> Also (and this is just a matter of taste), can we use "appender" and
>>> "logger" instead of the plural "appenders"/"loggers"?
>>>
>>> Also would prefer that. Both would require hard coded plugins instead of
>> generic lookups, though. Unless maybe we added @PluginAliases for them :)
>>
>>
>>> What would the config for a root logger look like?
>>>
>>> That one is already implicit in the code. If you configure a logger
>> named "root", that's changed to "" and treated as the root logger. Probably
>> deserves some documentation, though.
>>
>>
>>> One more thing: do we still need the .name attribute?
>>> This seems a bit redundant:
>>> log4j2.appender.File.name=File
>>> Perhaps better to remove it so we won't have to deal with cases like
>>> this:
>>> log4j2.appender.File.name=NotFile
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>> No, I guess not. But it could be optional because logger configs have
>> long names.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 2014/06/09, at 8:02, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I was thinking about that. It would make sense.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to figure out how to do this generically so that special
>>> cases don't need to be created. This file format is very limited, that's
>>> for sure.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 June 2014 17:10, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> One thing you could do is remove the type attribute by doing:
>>>
>>> log4j2.appenders.STDOUT=Console
>>>
>>> Ralph
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 8, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> https://paste.apache.org/e4m6
>>>
>>> Damn quick fingers.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 June 2014 15:57, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, what I'm trying to do first is convert the log4j-test1 file
>>> into a properties file before going anywhere with this. Basically, it'll
>>> have to be more like the XML strict format. Here's how I've converted it
>>> (as you can see, this file format sucks):
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 June 2014 15:20, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> So far it's awkward, but so was the original format.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 June 2014 15:07, Paul Benedict <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ooops. Yes, XSL. The use of the XSL is to show that it's really possible
>>> to convert an XML file into a flat file that's useable.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Of course XML is the better format. Like I said, I don't even use the
>>> properties file format. However, plenty of people still do, so it seems
>>> beneficial to allow it in some form.
>>>
>>> Do you mean an XSL file?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 June 2014 14:21, Paul Benedict <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I still think XML is a better format. But if you do allow property
>>> files, consider first an XSD file that converts XML to properties. Because
>>> if you can accomplish that, you will have proven to yourself that the
>>> property file can represent everything an XML file can.
>>>  On Jun 8, 2014 2:00 PM, "Matt Sicker" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm only working on this because it sounds interesting and has been
>>> requested by several people. I personally never use this file format in
>>> Log4j 1, so I'm not entirely sure on how to best maintain compatibility or
>>> similarity to the old format.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]>
>>
>
>


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