A groovy configuration would be rather groovy. That would be part of a
programmatic configuration API, and that itself I think is dependent on
using builders instead of factory methods for plugins.


On 9 June 2014 11:22, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote:

> In this case it is won't fix because it just isn't possible to process 1.2
> configurations in 2.0. The components take different attributes and the
> plugin system eliminates specifying classes.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 9, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Scott Deboy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> We shouldn't close feature requests as won't fix. Someone may come along
> later and decide to implement it.
>
> It's ok to say no one is planning on working on the feature, and remind
> the submitter that patches are welcome.
>
> Scott
>
> Scott
> On Jun 9, 2014 6:46 AM, "Paul Benedict" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I remember a ticket (dunno which one) being closed out as "Won't Fix" for
>> the properties format. Are you gong to reopen it since you're working on
>> the feature?
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 8 June 2014, Remko Popma <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> With xml, you'd wrap all <property ...> tags in a <properties>
>>>> encapsulating list element, but perhaps that is not needed in this format?
>>>>
>>>> So, instead of:
>>>> log4j2.properties.property.key=value
>>>> we could have:
>>>> log4j2.property.key=value
>>>>
>>>> I like it.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Also (and this is just a matter of taste), can we use "appender" and
>>>> "logger" instead of the plural "appenders"/"loggers"?
>>>>
>>>> Also would prefer that. Both would require hard coded plugins instead
>>> of generic lookups, though. Unless maybe we added @PluginAliases for them :)
>>>
>>>
>>>> What would the config for a root logger look like?
>>>>
>>>> That one is already implicit in the code. If you configure a logger
>>> named "root", that's changed to "" and treated as the root logger. Probably
>>> deserves some documentation, though.
>>>
>>>
>>>> One more thing: do we still need the .name attribute?
>>>> This seems a bit redundant:
>>>> log4j2.appender.File.name=File
>>>> Perhaps better to remove it so we won't have to deal with cases like
>>>> this:
>>>> log4j2.appender.File.name=NotFile
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>> No, I guess not. But it could be optional because logger configs have
>>> long names.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2014/06/09, at 8:02, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking about that. It would make sense.
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to figure out how to do this generically so that special
>>>> cases don't need to be created. This file format is very limited, that's
>>>> for sure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8 June 2014 17:10, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One thing you could do is remove the type attribute by doing:
>>>>
>>>> log4j2.appenders.STDOUT=Console
>>>>
>>>> Ralph
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 8, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://paste.apache.org/e4m6
>>>>
>>>> Damn quick fingers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8 June 2014 15:57, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Actually, what I'm trying to do first is convert the log4j-test1 file
>>>> into a properties file before going anywhere with this. Basically, it'll
>>>> have to be more like the XML strict format. Here's how I've converted it
>>>> (as you can see, this file format sucks):
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8 June 2014 15:20, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So far it's awkward, but so was the original format.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8 June 2014 15:07, Paul Benedict <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ooops. Yes, XSL. The use of the XSL is to show that it's really
>>>> possible to convert an XML file into a flat file that's useable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Of course XML is the better format. Like I said, I don't even use the
>>>> properties file format. However, plenty of people still do, so it seems
>>>> beneficial to allow it in some form.
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean an XSL file?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8 June 2014 14:21, Paul Benedict <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I still think XML is a better format. But if you do allow property
>>>> files, consider first an XSD file that converts XML to properties. Because
>>>> if you can accomplish that, you will have proven to yourself that the
>>>> property file can represent everything an XML file can.
>>>>  On Jun 8, 2014 2:00 PM, "Matt Sicker" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm only working on this because it sounds interesting and has been
>>>> requested by several people. I personally never use this file format in
>>>> Log4j 1, so I'm not entirely sure on how to best maintain compatibility or
>>>> similarity to the old format.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]>
>>>
>>
>>


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