Gary, the 2.0 release vote is already in progress.  I don’t see adding an 
annotation or comment marking something as for internal use as a reason to hold 
up the release.  

No to renaming StatusLogger. It’s name is perfectly clear to me.

Ralph

On Jul 13, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am hoping this will get cleaned up for the 2.0 release, especially if this 
> affects the log4j-api module. As soon as we publish 2.0, folks will have a 
> green light to implement their own loggers and solution and get hard-wired to 
> the API. As a user, I would imagine that anything in log4j-api would be set 
> in stone...
> 
> While we are here: I always found the class name StatusLogger confusing (as 
> is the package), for me InternalLogger (or PrivateLogger), would be clearer. 
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I suggest making an annotation or something to use for all the internal-use 
> classes that are in log4j-api. It also helps to make internal use APIs all in 
> separate packages from public APIs. That way you can make it extra obvious 
> that if the internal API changes, too bad.
> 
> 
> On 13 July 2014 13:44, Bruce Brouwer <bruce.brou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rats! It's not so simple as what I wrote.
> 
> The crux of the problem is that the various Configuration classes need to 
> control what shows up on the console from the StatusLogger. The way they've 
> been doing that is finding the existing listener and reconfiguring it. There 
> are some problems that will arise as you add new Configuration instances 
> (e.g. multiple web apps sharing the same classloader) where these 
> configurations build up over time. Additionally, nothing ever cleans them up 
> as a configuration is reloaded so you might start logging at debug level to 
> the console even though there is no configuration telling it to log at debug 
> level. Also, depending on the order of reconfigurations, you might only be 
> logging fatals to the console even though the current configuration is set to 
> debug level. 
> 
> It seemed more appropriate to me to introduce a new concept, the 
> StatusFilter. Since these are really trying to filter what shows up on the 
> console, it seemed more appropriate than a listener. My solution to these 
> problems is what brought about my API changes to StatusLogger, which is 
> somewhat significant. But to solve these problems, I think my changes are 
> necessary.
> 
> If we consider these changes important enough, I'd like to get them in before 
> 2.0, even though some may consider StatusLogger to not be "part of the API" 
> even though it is in log4j-api. 
> 
> I checked in the first set of changes to the LOG4J2-609 branch. 
> 
> If we don't make these changes for 2.0, I really want to put JavaDoc on the 
> stuff in ...log4j.status that clearly states this is for internal use only 
> and may change in a breaking way in the future.
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sunday, July 13, 2014, Bruce Brouwer <bruce.brou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is what I am thinking. I will make the branch tomorrow and put just the 
> minimal changes in place with the modified StatusLogger api. This way when I 
> fix things completely we won't have a breaking api change after 2.0 release. 
> If you like it, we can put just that in trunk and release.
> 
> Sounds good. 
>  
> On Jul 12, 2014 4:03 PM, "Bruno Mahé" <bm...@tango.me> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> We have been testing Apache Log4j 2.0rc2 at Tango for a few weeks and have 
> been very impressed.
> We are in the process of migrating our services to Apache Log 2.0rc2 so they 
> can be ready for roll out when 2.0 comes out.
> 
> The only issue we had so far was about configuring async logger for all 
> loggers. Having to pass system properties to Apache Tomcat in order to 
> activate and configure async loggers is not convenient.
> 
> There is also a more detailed email/blog post with some numbers we collected 
> being worked on.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bruno
> 
> On 07/11/2014 05:50 AM, Matt Sicker wrote:
>> Do it! Can't wait! Then I'll be able to upgrade from 1.2 at work. :)
>> 
>> 
>> On 11 July 2014 03:58, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> No objection at all!
>> 
>> I would like to add the tool to generate Custom/Extended Loggers, and do a 
>> doc fix for LOG4J2-631.
>> 
>> Also, the site now has an empty section "Custom Plugins" under manual > 
>> Extending Log4j. Shall we remove that before the release?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On 2014/07/11, at 15:50, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I would like to do the release for Log4j 2.0 this weekend. Are there any 
>> > objections?
>> >
>> > Ralph
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