All this discussion is reminding my why I decided not to take on the JUL bridge 
in the first place ;-)  I have often wondered how this JSR got approved.

Ralph

On Sep 9, 2014, at 8:21 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:

> There's actually a bit of an interesting challenge in converting from a 
> custom level in JUL to Log4j. JUL allows you to use any integer value 
> possible (not just non-negative ones). Also, their progression of level 
> values goes in reverse of ours. Thus, any level above 1000 (Level.SEVERE in 
> JUL) would need to be squeezed into the range of 1 to 99! Plus, 
> Integer.MAX_VALUE indicates StandardLevel.ALL, but Level.OFF in JUL. Then 
> there'd be the other way around, too.
> 
> As to those fields, I think we can probably drop them. LogRecord dynamically 
> calculates them from the Throwable stacktrace if necessary. We do it faster.
> 
> On 9 September 2014 22:07, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
> What about the logp, entering, exiting, and throwing methods which all take a 
> source class name and a source method name? Just ignore them?
> 
> On 9 September 2014 21:40, Remko Popma <[email protected]> wrote:
> My take would be to drop the seqNo and threadID integer, and for level, check 
> if its a built-in JUL level which can be translated to a built-in log4j 
> level. If it's not a built-in JUL level we can do a log4j Level.forName() 
> call to create that custom level in log4j as well. 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2014/09/10, at 11:07, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I'm actually thinking of some sort of LogRecordMessage or similar which 
>> takes a useful subset of LogRecord.
>> 
>> On 9 September 2014 21:01, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I've got ranges in place to map to standard levels, but custom level support 
>> is currently done through the MDC. Should I use a MapMessage instead? Make a 
>> new Message type just for log4j-jul? There's metadata in some of these 
>> Logger methods that I'd like to include, but if the MDC isn't the best way 
>> to do that, then I'd prefer another way. I noticed that pax-logging does 
>> this for every log event to include some metadata about the OSGi bundle that 
>> made the log call, so I kept up the style.
>> 
>> As to the static field, yes, I noticed that, too. It's only for a sequence 
>> number, and we have our own (better) way of doing that with on-demand 
>> sequencing (and using the AtomicXxx classes indeed) anyways.
>> 
>> On 9 September 2014 20:39, Remko Popma <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Fro a performance point of view, it would be great if we could avoid 
>> creating LogRecord instances. Not just from a GC perspective, but in java6 
>> the LogRecord constructor synchronizes on a static variable(!): big 
>> bottleneck. This is improved (using AtomicXxx) in java7. 
>> 
>> Also would great if we can avoid using the ThreadContext MDC for every log 
>> event. (Its copy-on-write design is not a good match for this usage...)
>> 
>> Would there be a way to map custom JUL log levels to custom Log4j levels?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2014/09/10, at 10:20, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually, now that I look at it, I can just use an inner class with 
>>> ExtendedLoggerWrapper to get at those protected methods I mentioned. I 
>>> mean, that appears to be the point of it! Let me see if it does everything 
>>> I needed.
>>> 
>>> On 9 September 2014 20:08, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Now that I'm looking at this, what's the point of all the methods that take 
>>> a FQCN instead of having just the ones in ExtendedLogger? I'm not sure why 
>>> we didn't just use a field in AbstractLogger in the first place.
>>> 
>>> On 9 September 2014 19:14, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I'm making some changes to log4j-jul to reduce redundant time spent 
>>> constructing a LogRecord that I don't even want to use most of the time. 
>>> However, the ExtendedLogger interface (which I need to use at the very 
>>> least so that I can set the fqcn to java.util.logging.Logger) only provides 
>>> a single version of logMessage (unlike AbstractLogger which has a bunch), 
>>> and several methods like catching(), throwing(), etc., all depend on 
>>> protected methods in AbstractLogger that I'd rather not re-implement. It 
>>> would be nice if I could just call the Logger methods I need, but they all 
>>> get called with the wrong fqcn.
>>> 
>>> Can we use a non-static final field that contains the fqcn? If I could, I'd 
>>> extend AbstractLogger myself, but I already have to extend the JUL Logger 
>>> class (should have been an interface, grrr). Thus, I can't rely on 
>>> AbstractLogger being the source of all these method calls. Unlike the other 
>>> adapters, JUL provides more various logger calls than we even have, and I 
>>> don't think ExtendedLogger was written with this scenario in mind.
>>> 
>>> I don't think this should be too large an impact of a change. I'm going to 
>>> push up a proposal, but feel free to veto it or offer some suggestions!
>>> 
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