I have to say, I'm very confused as to exactly what you are asking.

I told you how you can configure using custom properties without resorting to system properties.  You said I was missing the point even though, after re-reading, I believe the answer I provided directly addressed your question.

I then told you how you can directly reconfigure an appender, along with one example of how you can get a handle on an appender (there are others - read the API docs).  You responded saying that this example, somehow, reflected a of lack of flexibility in Log4j.

I'm at a loss.  Please restate what it is that you are aiming at here, because I cannot figure it out.


Jake

On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:23:34 +0100
 <malte.kem...@de.equens.com> wrote:

Hi Jake,
I see. But if the log4j-config is reloaded each time that application is called, the appender gets loaded with the current values of the Properties (actually System.properties). I ried that already. If I get the way of your sugesstion right, the application itselve would be supposed to code the configuration for a certan appender type. That is probably doable, but seems to me a bit contradictional to the ability to configure appenders of what kind ever. I mean why should an application know about what appender type and name is used in log4 configuration? I am afraid the logger then is loosing a lot of configuration flexibility, does'nt it?


Malte

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jacob Kjome [mailto:h...@visi.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 16. November 2012 18:54
An: Log4J Users List
Betreff: Re: Communcating An Own Properties-Object To log4j As Substtution For System-Properties


Yes, but that file-based configuration is only read once, and the appender only sees the fully resolved value and does not maintain the ${"propertyname"} for dynamic runtime substitution.  Even the solution I proposed only applies the one time.  It just allows you to define local properties rather than depending on System properties set JVM-wide.

You have to obtain an reference to the appender object and re-set its properties.  This is most certainly doable.  Just look up a logger that the appender is assigned to and use getAppender("appenderName").  Then you can modify the appender to your heart's content.


Jake

On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 18:26:10 +0100
 <malte.kem...@de.equens.com> wrote:

Hi Jake,
Thanks for the hint. But I am afraid that is not quite that what I ment.
Looking at the example below there is the following line:
<param name="string4Construction" value="${input.file.path}"></param>
Here the parameter string4Construction gets a value from the SystemProperty "input.file.path". So actually if the SystemProperty's value is "MyInputFile.txt" then the parameter string4Construction got  exactly its value "MyInputFile.txt". The syntax ${"propertyname"} is already built in somewhere of log4j, I think, which means that it will be looked at runtime on the System-Properties for getting the value of the property named here. If I knew where in the code of log4j that resolving takes place, I could may be understand how to manage it, to give dynamigly own Properties-ojects while run-time. Since there was no special code needed for inventing own parameters, but producing setter-methods in the customized appender, I believe log4j binds the parameters by reflection.

Malte


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jacob Kjome [mailto:h...@visi.com]
Gesendet: Freitag, 16. November 2012 18:04
An: Log4J Users List
Betreff: Re: Communcating An Own Properties-Object To log4j As Substtution For System-Properties


Well, you can manually bind properties at configuration time by loading the config as a properties object, adding more properties, and then calling configure(Properties) [1].  It's not clear to me how this might be done with XML configuration, thought I vaguely recall it being talked about in the past?


[1]
http://logging.apache.org/log4j/1.2/apidocs/org/apache/log4j/PropertyC
onfigurator.html#configure%28java.util.Properties%29


Jake

On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:12:18 +0100
 <malte.kem...@de.equens.com> wrote:
Hi to all (again),
I just thought on theoretical level. My problem, using log4j in a mulithraded environment using  Apender that create file names using property input could only work, if it is possible to give the appender (log4)  An own properties-object, rahter than using the Systm-Properties. Is there a method, with that you are able to tell an apender to get an very own Properties-Object with out the need to change the configuration possibility using ${propertiesname} to address the partcular property?

right now my appender configuration looks liek that:

<appender name="xsd-check" class="de.cmk.log4j.NameComposingFileAppender">         <param name="string4Construction" value="${input.file.path}"></param>                <param name="inputRegex" value="(.*)"></param>         <param name="file" value="logs/[user.name]/XSDCHECK.(0).log"
</param>
        <param name="Append" value="false" />
        <layout class="org.apache.log4j.PatternLayout">
                <param name="ConversionPattern"                       value="%d{ISO8601} %-5p %m%n" />
        </layout>
</appender>

I would like to tell the an appender, by using a log4j-method within a certian application init-time.

Is there something like that or is something like that planned in a later version of log4j?
(Is there any chance something like that would work at all?)

thanks in advancs for any hints


Malte



-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: malte.kem...@de.equens.com [mailto:malte.kem...@de.equens.com
<mailto:malte.kem...@de.equens.com> ]
Gesendet: Freitag, 16. November 2012 13:37
An: log4j-user@logging.apache.org
Betreff: AW: Funny Bbehaviour Wth A Customzed Appender

Hi Gary,
finally I found the trouble. It got nothing to do with log4j itself. It is the stuff around my application, since I comuniate the input file names within Systemproperties, that are filled by one but not by the other application. The logger produces empty files for each, even though the other application not even running.  I guess the cause of this is that I am using just one logging config for all my applcations. I probably could fix this behaviour by using for each application an own logger config.

Inkow, using system properties is not the best choice, because they are global. That makes thread safety impossible. For a long term I should overthink the comunication of properties to my NamedFileAppender. Is there another way to build up a file name for the logging using things like input file names may be with appenders that are shiiped with log4j?

Malte

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Von: Gary Gregory [mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com> ]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. November 2012 18:03
An: Log4J Users List
Betreff: Re: Funny Bbehaviour Wth A Customzed Appender


Hi Malte,

You should probably file a Bugzilla issue but I am not sure how much help you'll get here because you are using custom code. There you can attach all the files you want.

Can this be reproduced in any way with a stock appender of any type like a rolling file appender?

The best way to get anyone to help is to create a standalone program that illustrates the problem. Ideally, it should be a unit test that fails.

Another question that will come up is, does using the current version, 1.2.17, work better? Differently?

Gary


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:14 AM, <malte.kem...@de.equens.com> wrote:


               Hi to all,         I have programmed an appender dirived from FileAppender, that is  able to produce log-files with file names that you can controll in a  more flexible way.
        You can use an other String, for example the input file,  or  
parts of it to produce your desired log file name, seq-numbers and time  stamps etc.
        
        My applcation, that got the log-config (actually the xml  
configuration type) is a mroe infratstuctional Programm, that calls  
other applications like converters.
        I have put all in one single log-configuration-file using the  
cusomized appender on several file processing applcations.
        
        The confguration  is like this, that each processed file is  
suppose to produce one log file per application that is processing it.
        
        For one application it works pretty good. Ror another it  
produces each expected log file but produces the logs for all turns only  in one file. The others stay empty.
        
        
        
        I am not sure what I am doing wrong and what is going on here. I  cannot understand why in one case it works (s.FEDCONV...log) , in the  other it does not at all (s. XSDCHECK...log).
        
        here the contend of the only filled XSDCHECK...log
(XSDCHECK.x.C0100.MCP.SAG.SWIFT-MAX.AC.20121106.120001.000.TXT.log)
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,594 INFO
*****************************************
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,594 INFO  * XSD-Checker  V 1.0
*
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,594 INFO
*****************************************
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,610 INFO  using 'C:\tmp\Neuer  
Ordner\FED-Local\filedemon-fed-test\xsds\pacs.008.001.01.xsd' as  
XSD-File
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,610 INFO  using  
'xsdError\x.C0100.MCP.SAG.SWIFT-MAX.AC.20121106.120002.000.TXT.pacs08.
xm
l' as Input-File
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,672 INFO

"xsdError\x.C0100.MCP.SAG.SWIFT-MAX.AC.20121106.120002.000.TXT.pacs08.
xm
l" is valid.
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,688 INFO
*****************************************
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,688 INFO  * XSD-Checker  V 1.0
*
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,688 INFO
*****************************************
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,688 INFO  using 'C:\tmp\Neuer  
Ordner\FED-Local\filedemon-fed-test\xsds\pacs.008.001.01.xsd' as  
XSD-File
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,688 INFO  using  
'xsdError\x.C0100.MCP.SAG.SWIFT-MAX.AC.20121106.090004.000.TXT.pacs08.
xm
l' as Input-File
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,719 INFO

"xsdError\x.C0100.MCP.SAG.SWIFT-MAX.AC.20121106.090004.000.TXT.pacs08.
xm
l" is valid.
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,719 INFO
*****************************************
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,719 INFO  * XSD-Checker  V 1.0
*
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,735 INFO
*****************************************
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,735 INFO  using 'C:\tmp\Neuer  
Ordner\FED-Local\filedemon-fed-test\xsds\pacs.008.001.01.xsd' as  
XSD-File
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,735 INFO  using  
'xsdError\x.C0100.MCP.SAG.SWIFT-MAX.AC.20121106.090005.000.TXT.pacs08.
xm
l' as Input-File
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,750 INFO

"xsdError\x.C0100.MCP.SAG.SWIFT-MAX.AC.20121106.090005.000.TXT.pacs08.
xm
l" is valid.
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,750 INFO
*****************************************
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,766 INFO  * XSD-Checker  V 1.0
*
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,766 INFO
*****************************************
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,766 INFO  using 'C:\tmp\Neuer  
Ordner\FED-Local\filedemon-fed-test\xsds\pacs.008.001.01.xsd' as  
XSD-File
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,766 INFO  using  
'xsdError\x.C0100.MCP.SAG.SWIFT-MAX.AC.20121106.090006.000.TXT.pacs08.
xm
l' as Input-File
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,781 INFO

"xsdError\x.C0100.MCP.SAG.SWIFT-MAX.AC.20121106.090006.000.TXT.pacs08.
xm
l" is valid.
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,781 INFO
*****************************************
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,781 INFO  * XSD-Checker  V 1.0
*
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,797 INFO
*****************************************
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,797 INFO  using 'C:\tmp\Neuer  
Ordner\FED-Local\filedemon-fed-test\xsds\pacs.008.001.01.xsd' as  
XSD-File
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,797 INFO  using  
'xsdError\x.C0100.MCP.SAG.SWIFT-MAX.AC.20121106.120001.000.TXT.pacs08.
xm
l' as Input-File
        2012-11-15 09:33:52,813 INFO

"xsdError\x.C0100.MCP.SAG.SWIFT-MAX.AC.20121106.120001.000.TXT.pacs08.
xm
l" is valid.
        
               here the content was filled obviously in the log-file of the   last File beeing processed, instead of puting them to each log, that has  already been produced.
        
        Please find attached the source code of the appender and  
dependings  (*.java) , the configuration(log4j.xml), and an example of  
the logging of log4j itself (log4j-log-log).
        I am using log4j version log4j-1.2.15.jar
        
               Best regards and thanks for any hints in advance

        Malte



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