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On 2016-10-31 11:30, Joe wrote:

Hi Dominik,

Thanks for the feedback

> Please note also that MSMQ sounds like a MS only service and that would in turn mean that the .net core variant would no longer be able to benefit from the AsyncAppenderSkeleton. To me this outlines a path that we would not like to walk on

I don’t see the problem here.

I’m proposing that we could implement the queue as a separate class implementing a suitable interface (ILoggingEventQueue, IAppenderQueue or whatever – I’m with Philip Karlton on naming). The default implementation would be an in-memory queue, would not depend on MSMQ and would be available for .net core etc.


Sorry, my fault, the sentence was TL;DR it's entirety. I had it read it as "The default implementation could be MSMQ". ;-) Thanks for the clarification.

Then there could be an alternate implementation with a persistent queue using MSMQ, or users could provide their own custom implementations using some other persistent queueing technology if they wish.

The alternative of a persistent queue is useful to reduce the risk of (probably the last and therefore most important) logging events being lost when an application crashes: with a persistent queue they could be picked up again from the queue when the application restarts, or by an independent utility.

> This sounds mostly like the BufferingAppenderSkeleton, which only misses the background worker thread to send the buffer.

I’m not convinced that BufferingAppenderSkeleton is a good candidate. For example:

- Locking is problematic. The appender would need to lock(this) while it is forwarding logging events to the sink (BufferingAppenderSkeleton.SendBuffer). This could hold the lock for an extended period (e.g. due to a communication timeout). Therefore DoAppend should not lock(this) while enqueueing logging events or we’ll be unnecessarily blocking the calling application. This is one of the main reasons I want to implement my own DoEvents rather than deriving from AppenderSkeleton.


If the implementation requires lock(this) to work, the implementation is broken. The queue itself has to be thread safe. Hence, a true async appender should block the calling application only to fix a few logging event properties that would otherwise be lost (i.e. stacktrace or thread information).

- I see the buffering and triggering logic being implemented in a pluggable ILoggingEventQueue. By default, there would be no buffering, except what is implicit in the fact that events may be enqueued faster than they can be dequeued. I.e. whenever the background thread detects events in the queue, by default it processes all available events immediately, in blocks whose maximum size is a configurable SendBufferSize. A custom queue implementation could implement triggering logic akin to BufferingAppenderSkeleton, e.g. wait for a timeout defined by TimeEvaluator if there are fewer than SendBufferSize events in the queue.


A async appender working in async mode always buffers, by definition. If it wouldn't buffer, there would be nothing that a background thread could work on and it would block the calling application.

> System.Threading.Task.Run().

The TPL could be one way of implementing the queue, though I’m not convinced that it adds much value. The custom implementation I did recently didn’t use TPL, and that would be my starting point. This also means it would be compatible with .NET 3.5.


If .net 3.5 is a target for async logging, then the implementation cannot use the System.Threading.Tasks namespace. Otherwise I would build upon the default task scheduler implementation or provide a custom task scheduler implementation that derives from System.Threading.Tasks.TaskScheduler and let all logging tasks run on that task scheduler.

I found having a single background thread made it easier to implement things like flushing.


Mileage may vary but to me, this is not the case.

   Flush was implemented to:

- return true immediately if the queue is empty and all events have been successfully sent to the sink.

- return false immediately if the last attempt to send events to the sink failed.

- else wait for the background thread to set a ManualResetEvent when it’s finished processing all events in the queue.


That could read as:

bool Flush() {
return await Task.Run(() => {
  return doFlush();
});
}

or:

bool Flush() {
 Task<bool> task = Task.Run() => {
  return doFlush();
});
 task.Wait();
 return task.Result;
}

or even:

Task<bool> FlushAsync() {
return Task.Run() => {
  return doFlush();
});
}

> The default implementation should probably be able to operate asynchronously or synchronously and change mode of operation based on a configuration flag "Asynchronous=True"

That’s exactly what I had in mind.


Cheers

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