On Friday 11 January 2008 15:54, Robert Dumond wrote:
"I want to hear my baby talk"
.i mi djica mi tirna le mi cifnu tavla
Quoting Pierre Abbat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
mi djica lo nu tirna lo nu le mi cifnu cu tavla
You could also say {mi djica lo nu tirna lo se cusku be le mi cifnu}, which
means "I want to hear what my baby says".
I gave a similar answer, but in retrospect I'm not sure that's a
sensible way to introduce ninpre (newbies) to Lojbanic thinking.
We're trying to teach someone to doubly-embed bridi before they've
even really grokked what a bridi is.
I think instead of learning "mi djica lo nu" it would be more
advantageous at first for a ninpre to learn ".au". The word ".au" is
an attitudinal, meaning that it changes not what proposition the
sentence expresses, but only how it is that you relate to that
proposition. In particular, ".au" means that you desire for the
sentence to be true. You can express something very simply, and just
attach ".au" after the selbridi (you want the relation) or a sumti
(you want the sumti to appear in that relation):
le mi cifnu cu tavla .au
My child talks-- I want that.
.i mi tirna la'edi'u .au
And hearing the-referrent-of-the-last-sentence-I-said -- I want that.
mu'o mi'e la mungodjelis. no'u la bret.