There was some talk of using the oracle personal version (the name escapes me) which has no cost. Although I think the quick-win short term solution is a quick port to MySQL or Derby, and the longer term might be a jackrabbit repository (there are data model recasting issues).
The other think we are fighting is the perception that Management/Enterprise tools are not as compelling to work on as other types of projects. (Although was have some very compelling usage data, as we control our entire Java runtime). Could it be that individual contributors don't have a personal need to use it, and that larger companies who do need it already have some ad-hoc tooling? Pete -----Original Message----- From: Niall Pemberton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 12:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Participant Status? On 9/18/07, Toback, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This brings some questions to mind - namely what is causing this project > to not gather continued attention. > > What's preventing adoption or continued improvement? (other than me > lack of personal time to work on this, this summer) > > Is the database really the halting factor? Or is there something else - > Lack of apache 2.2 support? I honestly don't know. Perhaps not having a binary version of the release? Niall > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:12 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Participant Status? > > -- project status -- > > The last word of discussion some 3 months ago was about infra, the > creation of the lokahi wiki site. It has since been unused. Some > banter on the tail end of ApacheCon EU/07 included ideas about docs > and deployment help, and some ideas about DB backends. > > The last commit activity in the same timeframe were the beginnings > of a jackrabbit connector, no other activity for commits@ since then. > > There has been no activity on private. > > -- commentary -- > > Of course it was summer, nobody at the ASF expects measurable milestones > etc in the development of open source. Things move at the speed of the > project participants. Heathy/dead project definitions hide the fact > that the code is there for people to use, and there may be either little > to change in the current code (it just works), or things are just clear. > > However, there is identified a need to provide a non-proprietary > database > backend before the project graduates. There's also an identified need > to > add documentation of how to at least deploy and get started > using/testing > lokahi. > > Once those are done there really isn't a big reason to be in the > incubator, > except that the community is very small, which gives the IPMC and the > board > concern that it doesn't have enough interest to be maintained or > overseen. > > The incubator PMC really needs some folks to speak up on this thread of > their intent to remain (return to being) active at this project. It's > amazing how the positive reception ("That's exactly what we we've been > looking for!" or "That's what we were attempting to implement" or simply > "Wow, you mean there actually is one out there???") There's a need, > there > is an audience. There's even (good) code. Are there participants? > > Bill > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ > Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains > information of Merck & Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, > New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known > outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp & Dohme or MSD > and in Japan, as Banyu - direct contact information for affiliates is > available at http://www.merck.com/contact/contacts.html) that may be > confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this > message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this > message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then > delete it from your system. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck & Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp & Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu - direct contact information for affiliates is available at http://www.merck.com/contact/contacts.html) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
