Oh i'd also recommend DeMarco's book 'The Deadline', it's a sort of novel about project management, a bit like Knuth's 'Surreal Numbers', but not as bad[1].

G.

[1] Yeah i'm not qualified to criticise Knuth but a romance novel about the formation of set theory is pretty damn bad.


On 23 Jan 2013, at 11:51, Greg McCarroll wrote:



I'd also suggest finding yourself a mentor in your organization - it might not even be inside the IT function, my mentor was head of findance, and maybe have a first chat about what the various stakeholders (and i dont mean just the business) want to get out of a successful project. In my experience the best thing that scrum meetings/etc. bring is honesty - somethings are easy, but still take 4 or 8 hours, somethings don't take the 2 weeks, but getting a good relationship between business and engineering is the key. And getting engineers to appreciate the project manager's role is key and often this comes out of being ready to be wrong with estimates, with a no blame culture.

It's amazing how cheap some of the best motivators are, when i was at a well known ISP the project manager used to make a point of getting me to talk to the head of customer care, because once i put a human face on the problem i wanted to solve it more. It was a cheap trick, but it worked and it's ok later her, I and another london.pm'er had a little date with a roll of duct tape ;-).

G.

On 23 Jan 2013, at 11:17, Dermot wrote:

Thanks Adrian. There's some really useful stuff there. Am immersing myself
now.
Dermot.



On 23 January 2013 10:34, Adrian Howard <adri...@quietstars.com> wrote:

Hey Dermot,


On 23/01/13 09:27, Dermot wrote:

Hi,

I'm pretty sure I've seen this discussed on the list before but I can't (easily) find it in the archive. I was looking for a Project management course or company. There are a lot of companies in London doing training but I am a little sceptical about their quality. I'm not interested in a certificate. I'd like to grasp a decent methodology. From what I've seen
that would be Agile.


Agile != methodology. Agile = broad set of principles/philosophy on
software development. Particular methods like Scrum, XP, Crystal are Agile.

Sorry - pet niggle. Caused by folk causing me problems by using Agile &
Scrum as synonyms ;-)


Does anyone want to tout a course or company. I
promise not to sue if I think they're crap :-)


1) Consider Certified Scrum Master course.

The certification itself is pretty useless as a signifier of skill - it
basically just means you attended a two day course - but the courses
themselves tend to be quite useful.

The trainers are certified and generally pretty good. It does cost more than pocket change. However employers do take notice of CSM certifications
- however foolish that may be.

The two day course will get you up to speed on the basics of Scrum, and usually some pointers to some technical practices that go some way to
helping a Scrum implementation work.

More here http://is.gd/xJea3J

What this won't give you are insights into non-Scrum methods, and they tend to fuzz the Agile/Scrum/everything-else divide a bit from what I've
heard from some folk.

(I am not a CSM. I am not a Certified Scrum Trainer. I think Scrum is a
good method - but I have a long rant about the way Scrum gets
abused/misused. I also think that certification in general has probably
done more harm than good... but I digress...)


2) General Assembly and Skills Matters

http://skillsmatter.com/ & http://generalassemb.ly/

They both do free/cheapish courses with good presenters. Might be worth
dipping a toe in here.


3) Try a local agile event

I assume that you're London based. There are some great local Agile events
that it might be worth toddling along too and quizzing folk.

The Extreme Tuesday Club is one http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?**
ExtremeTuesdayClub <http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ExtremeTuesdayClub>


4) Try some background reading

I still stand by this list 'o' books as good introductions
http://qr.ae/8DyB3


Also <bias="hubris">Agile training/workshops is something I do a bit
myself</bias> - drop me a line if y'like ;-)

Cheers,

Adrian



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