Hi, Ketan:

What I want to know is that where to encapsulate the LLS Data Block if the 
router uses OSPFv3 Extended LSAs to establish the adjacency?

 

Best Regards

 

Aijun Wang

China Telecom

 

From: lsr-boun...@ietf.org <lsr-boun...@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Ketan Talaulikar
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 12:56 PM
To: Aijun Wang <wangai...@tsinghua.org.cn>
Cc: lsr@ietf.org; draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-bfd-strict-m...@ietf.org; Acee Lindem 
(acee) <a...@cisco.com>; Albert Fu <af...@bloomberg.net>
Subject: Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for "OSPF Strict-Mode for BFD" - 
draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-bfd-strict-mode-04

 

Hi Aijun,

 

This document proposes changes to the adjacency establishment procedures and 
the use of LLS for negotiations. As such, it is independent of OSPFv3 Extended 
LSAs. Please let us know if you believe otherwise.

 

Thanks,

Ketan

 

 

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 8:29 AM Aijun Wang <wangai...@tsinghua.org.cn 
<mailto:wangai...@tsinghua.org.cn> > wrote:

Hi, Albert:

 

Want to how to accomplish this aim when router conforms to RFC8362?

 

 

Best Regards

 

Aijun Wang

China Telecom

 

From: lsr-boun...@ietf.org <mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org>  <lsr-boun...@ietf.org 
<mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org> > On Behalf Of Albert Fu (BLOOMBERG/ 120 PARK)
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 4:25 AM
To: a...@cisco.com <mailto:a...@cisco.com> ; lsr@ietf.org <mailto:lsr@ietf.org> 
Cc: draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-bfd-strict-m...@ietf.org 
<mailto:draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-bfd-strict-m...@ietf.org> 
Subject: Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for "OSPF Strict-Mode for BFD" - 
draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-bfd-strict-mode-04

 

 

I support this draft, as one of the authors, as well as a BFD user, and hope it 
becomes a standard. 

 

This draft addresses an issue that we have encountered in our production 
network, hence we have been actively working with our vendors.

 

Most people deploy BFD with OSPF (or any routing protocols) to enable fast 
failure detection. This is to ensure that routing/forwarding path is diverted 
as soon as a connectivity issue is detected.

 

OSPF BFD strict mode ensures this, in that it requires that the BFD session to 
be established before OSPF adjacency will be allowed to be established, thus 
ensuring that routing/forwarding will not use the path without a working BFD 
adjacency.

 

Without this standard, as per most current default OSPF BFD deployment, OSPF 
adjacency is established without BFD. OSPF adjacency then triggers the BFD 
session to be established. If a "break-in-middle" issue occurred (where last 
mile interface status remains up) before BFD session comes up, we would lose 
the fast failure detection capability. This situation will require lengthy OSPF 
protocol timeout to detect such failure, resulting in traffic being black-holed 
for extended period. 

 

We have a large network consisting of several thousand links throughout the 
world, and have seen this issue several times that had impacted production 
traffic negatively. 

 

As mentioned in a previous email, we have successfully tested this feature on 
the Juniper MX (JUNOS 19.4) and also Cisco ASR9k (XR 7.3.2) platforms.

 

Thanks

Albert Fu

Bloomberg

 

From: a...@cisco.com <mailto:a...@cisco.com>  At: 01/27/22 12:08:36 UTC-5:00

To: lsr@ietf.org <mailto:lsr@ietf.org> 
Cc: draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-bfd-strict-m...@ietf.org 
<mailto:draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-bfd-strict-m...@ietf.org> 
Subject: Working Group Last Call for "OSPF Strict-Mode for BFD" - 
draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-bfd-strict-mode-04

 

LSR WG, 

 

This begins a two week last call for the subject draft. Please indicate your 
support or objection on this list prior to 12:00 AM UTC on February 11th, 
20222. Also, review comments are certainly welcome.

Thanks,
Acee

 

 

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