From: John Scudder <j...@juniper.net> Sent: 12 September 2022 13:47 Hi Tom,
Needless (?) to say, I’m sympathetic with your position, and thanks for bringing up the parallel case. I take it however, that you aren’t taking the position that this reorganization/restructuring/call it what you will needs to be done by draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles, though? Right now it looks to me as though there’s not consensus that it *should* be done in draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles, which suggests to me that, - We should ask Ketan to revert to the version where the registry is left untouched (the “nothing” option), - We should then send draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles for IETF LC and proceed with the publication process, and concurrently, - Someone who sees value in reorganizing the registry should write a standalone draft to do that, and propose it as a WG draft. Any objection to that approach? <tp> That sounds like a good plan, Tom Petch Thanks, —John > On Sep 12, 2022, at 5:33 AM, tom petch <ie...@btconnect.com> wrote: > > From: Lsr <lsr-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of John Scudder > <jgs=40juniper....@dmarc.ietf.org> > Sent: 06 September 2022 22:04 > >> On Sep 6, 2022, at 5:00 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <a...@cisco.com> wrote: >> >> I guess if we do decide to either abandon the reorganization suggestion >> altogether, or to pursue it as a separate draft, then >> draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles should just stick to its existing approach of >> listing restrictions in their own subsections of the main spec, do you >> agree? Recall that we got here (in part) because it seemed strange to me to >> update the registry to list some restrictions, but not all of them. >> >> [ACEE] This would be my choice except I wouldn't add the "L2 Member Bundle >> Attributes" restriction to the IANA registry unless we do it for all the >> Sub-TLVs as you suggest. > > We agree; that was what I meant. All or nothing, either do the whole > reorganization (or whatever you want to call it) or back out the 05 change to > the IANA section and just roll with what was in 04 and earlier. Halfway > doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. > > <tp> > All; you have to do it sometime, better sooner than later. > > I see a close parallel with MPLS which got itself into a tangle, attempts to > clarify were rebuffed until eventually the problems were just too great and > the work was done. > > Look at the TLVs registry in the IANA Multiprotocol Label Switching > Architecture (MPLS) Group. I think that you need a strong reason not to > adopt a similar approach (if only for users who use MPLS as well as OSPF). > No need for ten columns, just a structured approach. > > It took a lot of detailed review to get it right - Loa knows that well - but > I believe that the effort was worth it. > > Tom Petch > > —John _______________________________________________ Lsr mailing list Lsr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsr
