Hello Ketan

Thank you for your quick reply and the updated document.

I am still unclear, though, that IEEE802.1AX is normative or informative. 
Nothing critical anyway.

Regards

-éric

From: Ketan Talaulikar <ketant.i...@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, 4 October 2022 at 11:03
To: Eric Vyncke <evyn...@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: Éric Vyncke's Yes on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: (with 
COMMENT)

Hi Eric,

Thanks for your review and please check inline below for responses.

The changes as discussed below will reflect in the next draft update.


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# Éric Vyncke, INT AD, comments for draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06
CC @evyncke

Thank you for the work put into this document: it is short, clear, and will be
useful.

Please find below some non-blocking COMMENT points (but replies would be
appreciated even if only for my own education).

Special thanks to Acee Lindem for the shepherd's detailed write-up including
the WG consensus and the justification of the intended status. A follow up on
the Ericsson IPR would be welcome though if there is any update.

As a side note, yet another definition for the overloaded "SID" ;-)

I hope that this review helps to improve the document,

Regards,

-éric

## COMMENTS

### IEEE802.1AX as informative ?

The only occurence of IEEE802.1AX appears to me as informative: ` for instance
a Link Aggregation Group (LAG) [IEEE802.1AX]` => suggest to change the
reference type to informative rather than normative.

KT> This reference actually extends to the term "bundle" and consequently 
"bundle member" throughout the document. The reason for using "for instance" is 
because there are non-standard mechanisms for grouping of links that could also 
use this feature. Will update text to clarify the association of "LAG" with 
"bundle" in the introduction.


### Section 2

```
   ... Therefore advertisements of member links MUST NOT
   be done when the member link becomes operationally down or it is no
   longer a member of the identified L2 bundle.
```

OTOH, if the information is for an external party (e.g., a controler), having
information of an operationally-down link could be useful. Are the authors sure
that this would never be used ?

KT> OSPF does not advertise links (rather adjacencies) via its LSAs that are 
not operationally UP. There are other mechanisms (MIBs/models) to report the 
operational status of links. For TE use-cases the presence of a link in the 
TE-DB (derived from LSDB) indicates that the links are up and usable - the 
application (e.g., a path computation element) does not need to perform 
additional checks on their operational state. The primary motivation for 
including bundle members and their attributes is to contribute this information 
into the TE-DB for use-cases like steering traffic over specific member links. 
Hence, we choose to retain the same semantics for bundle member advertisements.


### Section 2, length field

`Length: Variable.` while it is probably obvious, it would probably not hurt to
specify the units and what is included.

KT> Ack - will update.


### Section 2, extensibility

Should there be some text on how to decide applicable/non-applicable for any
new link attribute TLV that could be added in the coming years ?

KT> Sure - will clarify. Typically, attributes that have Layer 3 semantics 
would not be applicable while Layer 2 attributes would apply for inclusion in 
the L2 Bundle Member Sub-TLV.

Thanks,
Ketan


## Notes

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