Hi Acee ,
On top of what Les mentioned, there is well deployed solution where mLDP being 
supported with Flex algo . It’s not just implemented but customers running it 
in production network.

So whether someone will use it in production or not , I do not have doubt about 
it .

Having said that, I support the adoption of this work. It is important and I 
can see more and more use case coming in future.

Mankamana

From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, August 22, 2025 at 3:09 PM
To: Acee Lindem <[email protected]>
Cc: lsr <[email protected]>, Peter Psenak (ppsenak) <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]>
Subject: [Lsr] Re: LSR WG Adoption Poll for "IGP Flex Soft Dataplane" - 
draft-ginsberg-lsr-flex-soft-dataplane-01

Acee -

The logical extension to your position would be that there is no need to 
define/use flex-algo because everything we can do with flex-algo could be done 
with multiple topologies.
This may be true - but the deployment challenges/costs associated with using 
multiple topologies in this way have made it far less appealing for many use 
cases.

I would also suggest that you consider the use case described in 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xz-pim-flex-algo/ - where flex-algo soft 
dataplane is used as an adjunct to a multicast topology - not a replacement.
I guess your answer to that would be to have "many multicast topologies"???
This would be, of course, possible - but much more difficult/expensive to 
deploy.

   Les

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Acee Lindem <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2025 2:33 PM
> To: Acee Lindem <[email protected]>
> Cc: lsr <[email protected]>; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>; Peter
> Psenak (ppsenak) <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: LSR WG Adoption Poll for "IGP Flex Soft Dataplane" - draft-
> ginsberg-lsr-flex-soft-dataplane-01
>
> Speaking as WG member:
>
> I think the requirements for this draft are "soft" given that the only example
> provided is the multicast distribution which has been satisfied for decades
> using a separate multicast topology.
> In short, the draft suffers from "ED" which in this case is "Exemplar 
> Deficiency".
> I'm certainly not going to support adoption until I see a more compelling use
> case.
>
> Thanks,
> Acee
>
>
> > On Aug 22, 2025, at 5:22 PM, Acee Lindem <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > LSR WG,
> >
> > The begins the LSR WG adoption call for "IGP Flex Soft Dataplane" - draft-
> ginsberg-lsr-flex-soft-dataplane-01. Please express your support or objection
> on this list prior to Saturday September 6, 2025.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Acee

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