> On Aug 28, 2025, at 1:26 PM, Peter Psenak <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Acee,
> 
> On 22/08/2025 23:33, Acee Lindem wrote:
>> Speaking as WG member:
>> 
>> I think the requirements for this draft are "soft" given that the only 
>> example provided is the multicast distribution which has been satisfied for 
>> decades using a separate multicast topology.
> 
> MT does not give you the option to calculate paths based on various metrics 
> (e.g., delay, TE, bandwidth), use constraints, etc. That's what flex-algo 
> provides.
> 
>> In short, the draft suffers from "ED" which in this case is "Exemplar 
>> Deficiency". I'm certainly not going to support adoption until I see a more 
>> compelling use case.
> 
> Flex-algo is strictly bound to a specific data-plane today - e.g., SR-MPLS. 
> SRv6, IP-Algo. The reason for that is that an algo specific forwarding is 
> needed and these data-planes are giving you that.
> 
> The use case in this draft is to make flex-algo available for applications 
> that require algo specific paths without the need for any of these 
> data-planes. Such Flex-algo paths are not used for forwarding directly, but 
> rather by applications that create their own data-plane with the help of the 
> flex-algo paths. You can think of it as a distributed path calculation 
> service that provides you the loop free constraint based paths on top of IGP 
> topology for any app that needs it.

What I’m saying is the forwarding plane doesn’t have to exist today for the 
multicast topology be used for multicast RPF. Please capture the reasoning as 
to why a separate data plane is required. Point out that while flex-algorithm 
can be topology specific, the SR-MPLS and IP flex algorithms are NOT topology 
specific. You guys understand this - just put it in the draft. 

Thanks,
Acee


> 
> thanks,
> Peter
> 
> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Acee
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2025, at 5:22 PM, Acee Lindem <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> LSR WG,
>>> 
>>> The begins the LSR WG adoption call for "IGP Flex Soft Dataplane" - 
>>> draft-ginsberg-lsr-flex-soft-dataplane-01. Please express your support or 
>>> objection on this list prior to Saturday September 6, 2025.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Acee
>> 
> 

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