Jeff McCune wrote:
[SNIP]
My original post was a request to the Have's; stop for a minute and help
the Have Not's catch up. That's all.
[SNIP]
In this situation, a tool that's open and backed by a development group
that willingly works with the community will naturally evolve into what
it needs to be. In effect the "what we need to do" will naturally
develop itself.
I whole-heartedly agree, which is one big reason why I'm not so
concerned about being theoretically correct and would much rather get
something out there that it's easy to be involved in.
I agree with you, configuration management is much more than simply
automating manual processes a human performs. My argument; the end goal
is unreachable and unimportant until a viable path to it is available to
the community at large.
However, the reality of the situation today is that virtually nobody
(except perhaps the admins at Google, or Amazon) is ready to take the
leap in abstraction you and many on this list are constantly discussing.
Practically speaking, a workshop should empower the attendees rather
that just leave them with a sense of "Wow, that's really neat, but
there's no clear path from where I'm at now to where they're talking
about going."
Again, I completely agree. I want workshop attendees to come out with a
clear idea of what they can do next, whether a newbie to config-mgmt or
an old hand at it. Seating constraints and workshop visibility will
tend towards more experience, but it should transition smoothly into the
BoF.
I'd be thrilled if you'd be willing to help with the workshop, Jeff. I
don't think it's appropriate that we rely on tool developers (Narayan
and myself), since we'll have too many clear biases.
--
Nonreciprocal Laws of Expectations:
Negative expectations yield negative results. Positive expectations
yield negative results.
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