On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 06:44:51PM +0000, bo0od wrote:
> > Also, the most popular XMPP clients (such as Conversations and ChatSecure)
> > have OMEMO built-in and use it by default.  So I think for most users,
> > privacy is indeed the default with XMPP.
> 
> These are mobile OS only based clients Conversations for Android only ,
> Chatsecure for IOS only , what about Desktop? nothing active available with
> builtin encryption.

Dino has OMEMO included by default.  There may be others that have it included 
by default too - I don't know all desktop XMPP clients off-hand.

For many clients (like Gajim), whether OMEMO is included is generally up to the 
distribution's packager.  In Debian, for example, Gajim's OMEMO support is 
indeed in a separate package, as you alluded to.

> So lets say secure chatting over insecure operating systems (insecure
> endings)

You can run Conversations on Replicant, which is a fully free version of 
Android.  But I do agree that it's better to use a non-phone when possible for 
better security.

Denver
https://jmp.chat/

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