Thanks Tom. That seems to clear up some things.
— Doug On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 5:17 PM Domestic Caverns <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Peter, > > I’m not sure if this is what you’re referring to regarding the white > helmets, but here is some fact checking on them as a hoax: > > > https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-this-proof-white-helmets-staged-chemical-attack/ > > Best, > Tom > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 2:45 PM Peter Jones | Redesign < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Richard - Its interesting you'd suggest Bellingcat on this list >> (Liberation Tech) as an exemplar for investigative techniques that purport >> to identity motive and source. In my observation of their work, they have >> the resources to conduct very sophisticated study - because that are a >> dedicated insider info ops (hybrid warfare) group of the NATO-sponsored >> Atlantic Council - their DFRL organization >> https://www.digitalsherlocks.org >> >> >> >> Bellingcat started up two days *before* the infamous MH17 airliner >> shootdown in Ukraine 7.17.2014 (a problematic case that is still definitely >> unresolved in the Dutch special court). They immediately entangled >> themselves in evidence production from the "fog of war" among the various >> actual investigators on the ground. Their notoriety and founding were >> started up in sync with this event, which would give them interesting >> context for their own motives. >> >> >> >> The founders Higgins and Toler are senior fellows at the NATO DFRLab >> https://www.digitalsherlocks.org/360-os-2018 which verifies not >> necessarily a guarantee of income, but at least the level of establishment >> of their primary client. I’d suspect they aren’t hurting for a job. >> >> >> >> The goals of the DRFL program are ostensibly to "counter disinformation." >> But the explicit means of doing so are to construct preferred information >> that is certified by their vast network of the military complex that >> requires such "bottom up" narratives to justify their own interventions >> and weaponization of social media. After all Obama shelled out $250M in >> his last gift to the Mil Complex December 2016. Also for “countering >> (primarily Russian) disinformation” which is a neat way of saying >> “creating disinformation for the public.” All US wars have been started and >> justified by such information ops long before kinetic actions, and this >> was done with newspapers before electronic media. >> >> >> >> Put your McLuhanist hats on. Who has the most to gain from these >> operations? Who has skin in the game and who is paying for these >> investigations? Who is working at their OWN risk and conscience to develop >> and expose (or whistleblow) truthful reporting? >> >> >> >> The anti-Bellingcats are actual citizen sleuths such as Northern >> Ireland’ Patrick Watson, who was disgusted by what he saw as obvious fake >> videos with the White Helmets, used to promote the Syrian “chemical >> weapons” videos. He did hos own research and blew open quiet a bit of >> trouble. >> >> >> >> His website https://hiddensyria.com/ covers a number of his >> investigations – he’s clearly not a “Russian” anything, as I’ve followed >> his work from the very first tweet I think (I happened to see his easily >> outbursts) AND he doesn’t’ have a lot of followers. A troll tries to >> sensationalize and get a lot of attention. Philip has also worked hard, and >> at risk, to show the OPCW organization is at fault for covering up their >> field evidence that exonerates the Syrian government, a very inconvenient >> finding. There are whistle-blower memos and support from the founding OPCW >> General Director for their exposure. It’s a significant scandal, and on >> this issue Bellingcat is arguing (and was caught fabricating) for the >> establishment, again, and every time, for the wars. >> >> >> >> I would also confirm regard for the small UK academic team, the Working >> Group on Syria, Propaganda and Media that has done open sources and deep >> investigative reporting on the Syrian hoaxes and White Helmets (along with >> Vanessa Bealey's fieldwork). >> >> >> >> has also been heavily attacked by mainstream reporters, (Guardian types) >> and 77th Brigade (the British military info ops soldiers) >> https://syriapropagandamedia.org/ Because they have been on-0tagert, >> the BBC and Guardian have smeared their work on front page stories to try >> to recover their Syrian war “information superiority.” In the shadowy world >> of information ops, this is a war on real people. And the establishment >> will lose, over time, regardless of how many more millions they throw at 77 >> th Brigades and projects like the UK’s FCO-sponsored Integrity >> Initiative https://syriapropagandamedia.org/the-integrity-initiative >> >> >> >> Humans with a conscience will always eventually win on social media, as >> the war narrative is always a drumbeat of the same talking points and >> arguments. Reality is complex, ambiguous, and subject to surprises – which >> is what we see in the citizen reporter stories. >> >> >> >> As a professor I would at least present students with case studies from >> “both sides.” >> >> >> >> To a more peaceful 2021, Peter Jones >> >> >> >> *PETER JONES, PH.D.* >> ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR >> FACULTY OF DESIGN >> >> *T *416 799.8799 <416%20799%208799> @redesign >> *E* [email protected] >> >> *Design Dialogues * <http://designdialogues.com/> >> *Strategic Innovation Lab* <http://slab.ocadu.ca/> >> *Systemic Design Association (RSD) * <https://systemic-design.net/> >> >> >> *OCAD UNIVERSITY**Strategic Foresight & Innovation* >> 205 Richmond St. West, Suite 410 >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/205+Richmond+St.+West,+Suite+410+Toronto,+Canada++M5V+1V3?entry=gmail&source=g> >> Toronto, Canada >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/205+Richmond+St.+West,+Suite+410+Toronto,+Canada++M5V+1V3?entry=gmail&source=g> >> M5V 1V3 >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/205+Richmond+St.+West,+Suite+410+Toronto,+Canada++M5V+1V3?entry=gmail&source=g> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LT <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard >> Brooks >> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 2:39 PM >> To: Doug Schuler <[email protected]>; Richard Brooks < >> [email protected]> >> Cc: LT <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Intentional Big Tech Leftist Bias in Social >> and News Media Corrupts Elections and Defrauds Peoples >> >> >> >> The idea of thoughts and ideas being similar to a biological ecosystem >> has been around for a while. I think that Richard Dawkins, William S. >> Burroughs, and Robert Anton Wilson all have legitimate claims to having >> originated the idea. (It is likely to have roots in antiquity somewhere.) >> >> >> >> The US does have a certain anti-intellectualism deep in its subconscious >> and at least one (nameless) political party has worked hard to delegitimize >> science (evolution, economics, climate change, ...). >> >> >> >> That this would lead eventually to people being susceptible to having >> their innate biases exploited by other actors, is not surprising. >> >> >> >> Social media has exacerbated the process. >> >> >> >> One idea that I have been playing with is trying to introduce somewhere >> in curricula having students use tools/techniques like those used by >> Bellingcat to determine the source and motivation of online campaigns. >> >> >> >> I really am impressed by Bellingcat. >> >> >> >> On 12/30/20 2:12 PM, Doug Schuler wrote: >> >> > An article in the recent Science magazine talked about a “syndemic” >> >> > which >> >> > >> >> > "is the intersection of two epidemics—two diseases ravaging a >> >> > population at the same time, exacerbating each other. HIV weakens the >> >> > immune system, for instance, which makes people more likely to develop >> >> > tuberculosis. The world witnessed some- thing similar this year. We >> >> > live in an eco-system that allows viruses to cross from wildlife to >> >> > humans more often and spread farther and faster than ever before—that >> >> > gave us SARS-CoV-2. But the virus emerged in an information ecosystem >> >> > that helps misinformation and lies spread faster than scientific >> >> > evidence, weakening our ability to respond to new threats. That made >> >> > the pandemic far worse." >> >> > >> >> > https://science.sciencemag.org/content/sci/370/6523/1395.full.pdf >> >> > >> >> > Without necessarily buying into the entire metaphor it seems pretty >> >> > useful, bringing up concepts susceptibility, vulnerable populations, >> >> > super spreaders, mode of transmission, and, of course, inoculation. >> >> > >> >> > It also fits well into my investigations into civic intelligence which >> >> > I believe is threatened like other natural resources. And if it gets >> >> > too low, our ability to address our problems cooperatively becomes >> >> > ever more helpless. >> >> > >> >> > I'd love to hear your thoughts on this! >> >> > >> >> > — Doug >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 8:49 AM Richard Brooks <[email protected] >> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>>> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Interesting. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/2/21278601/mark-zuckerberg-facebook-tr >> >> > ump-posts-employee-call-fact-checking-voter-misinformation >> >> > >> >> > https://faculty.lsu.edu/fakenews/elections/thethreatofqanon.php >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > https://www.france24.com/en/20201006-qanon-conspiracies-go-global-in-p >> >> > andemic-perfect-storm >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1369118X.2017.1329334?jour >> >> > nalCode=rics20 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/08/technology/youtube-radi >> >> > cal.html >> >> > >> >> > On 12/23/20 4:31 AM, grarpamp wrote: >> >> > > The Invisible Influence of Big Tech on Politics & Elections - >> Allum >> >> > > Bokhari #Deleted >> >> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFJfGphZBmQ >> >> > > #Deleted: Big Tech's battle to erase the trump movement and steal >> >> > the election >> >> > > https://deletedbook.com/ >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable from any major >> commercial search engine. 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