Hi James,

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I can show you a site that will crash ltsp + firefox with 256M ram on client, reliably, repeatably, and at the same point every time.

Ooo...tell me more! I was actually going to post to the list about a problem we've had which sounds almost identical to that one, and I've traced it to the amount of RAM in the client.

Background info
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We're running the latest & greatest LTSP v4.1.1 on an up-to-date Debian "unstable" Dual Athlon MP w/2GB RAM system. Our clients are various name brand and off-brand donated PCs, Pentium I and PII class. The clients are running the stock 2.4 LTSP kernel. Our users use GNOME and the usual OSS stars: OpenOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird, GAIM, etc.

Problem description
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In the past few months (since upgrading to LTSP v4 with X.org I believe) some of our clients would freeze up fairly often while people were working, usually while surfing the web with Firefox. I could tell the kernel hadn't crashed because I could ping the system, but we had to reboot the client to get people logged back in (not cool when people are in the middle something else). We could even reproduce the problem very reliably by surfing to particular web pages. Here is one example page: http://ww2.lafayette.edu/~collegestore/baby-merchandise.html

This week I finally got the SSH server operating on the clients, so I was able to login and see what was going on. Turns out the X server process was just gone. Nothing in the X log. The CPU wasn't churning.

The problem didn't happen on all of our terminals though. At first I thought that maybe it was connected to the video chip in use, which would determine the X driver which might be buggy. Then I realized that the terminals that could be consistently crashed all had 64MB of RAM. When I bumped them up to 128MB of RAM then the consistent crashing stopped. Woo Hoo! Now it seems that the crashing isn't totally gone, but adding RAM *really* helped.

So Jim, does that sound like the same problem you've seen? Does at least 256MB of RAM per client seem to make it go away? I'm also thinking of turning on NFS swap, at least as a stopgap measure. Anyone else have any experience with this problem and possible solutions? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Jason

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Jason Maas
DiscipleMakers Systems Dept --  www.dm.org


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