I think you mean to ask if I built a new image after upgrade?  Oh yes,
I did.  But it is very lucky that I did not get rid of the old images
(pre-upgrade) because in certain cases, those are the only ones that
work.  The brand new, new chroot, etc., images give trouble.

In fact, that is the issue:  The fresh chroot images behave worse than
the old ones I saved.  I'm confused by this.


On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Jordan Erickson
<jerick...@logicalnetworking.net> wrote:
> I know this is a really basic question, and based on your detailed
> response I'm sure you covered this.. but you *did* start fresh with a
> new chroot after you upgraded, no?
>
>
> - Jordan
>
>
> On 09/02/2011 12:38 PM, Lachele Foley (Lists) wrote:
>> I have a pretty heterogeneous environment.  After upgrading from Lucid
>> to Natty (required for one of the clients), I see a number of display
>> issues.  If these are covered in the Natty release notes, I don't know
>> enough to be able to tell it.  It might be worth saying that I only
>> upgraded to Natty because Lucid doesn't have a driver capable of fully
>> booting the z210's on-board NIC.  But, because of that, I can't really
>> downgrade.
>>
>> Could this be due to upgrading rather than doing a fresh install?
>> Could I have done one of those special "only true users can manage
>> this" things?  I can give more machine details if that will help.
>> These are all in "Classic" mode.  The server is AMD Opteron 8384
>> (amd64).
>>
>> Key to behaviors indicated below:
>>
>> ** No Boot:  Doesn't make it to login screen
>>
>> ** Elements Vertical Mirror:  Machine boots, shows login correctly,
>> logs user in, starts X, the X display is arranged properly, but
>> individual text and image elements are mirrored vertically.
>>
>> ** No User X:  Machine boots, shows the login screen, tries to log the
>> user in, but can't start X and returns the user to the login prompt.
>>
>> ** Die on Xterm:  Boots, logs in, X starts right, but try to run
>> "xterm" from within a gnome-terminal and the screen freezes and you
>> get booted back to the login screen.  Generally, the client must be
>> restarted to get proper X behavior on subsequent logins.  We aren't
>> really so concerned with being able to start an xterm: some of our
>> scientific software (autodock tools, xleap) behaves the same way.  I
>> just figured that "xterm" would be more useful to any poor soul who
>> tries to fix this.
>>
>> ** Too New NIC:  The driver for the NIC isn't available in the image,
>> so the login doesn't complete.
>>
>> ** Slow Video Win7-32-VM:  Very slow when showing videos within a Win7
>> 32-bit Virtualbox virtual machine.  Inside a Win7 64-bit VM seems
>> fine.
>>
>> Key to images (the machine and all images are up to date as of Aug
>> 26th -- monthly upgrade):
>>
>> ** Lucid-Lucid:  Lucid server, Lucid image
>> ** Natty-Lucid:  Natty server, Lucid image
>> ** Natty-Natty:  Natty server, Natty image
>>
>> Client 1:  Old Dell Optiplex DX280:  P4 (i386)
>>         Using Onboard (old Dell whatever) video:
>>                 Lucid-Lucid :  Worked as expected
>>                 Natty-Lucid :  Elements Vertical Mirror (using correct
>> i386 boot image)
>>                 Natty-Natty :  No User X
>>         NVIDIA Geforce 6200 (256 MB, PCI)
>>                 Lucid-Lucid :  No data
>>                 Natty-Lucid :  Don't recall... sorry... can try if
>> important (I think "No Boot")
>>                 Natty-Natty :  Works as expected
>>
>> Client 2:  HP dc5850 Microtower:  AMD Phenom 9850B (amd64)
>>         ATI Radeon 3100
>>                 Lucid-Lucid : Worked as expected
>>                 Lucid-Lucid(i386 by accident) : Elements Vertical Mirror
>>                 Natty-Lucid(correct amd64 image) : Elements Vertical Mirror
>>                 Natty-Natty : No User X
>>
>> Client 3:  HP z210 Intel Core I5 ("amd64")
>>         NVIDIA Quadro4 NVS 400
>>                 Lucid-Lucid : Too New NIC
>>                 Natty-Lucid : Too New NIC
>>                 Natty-Natty :  Die on Xterm
>>
>> Client 4:  HP z600 Intel Xeon e5620 ("amd64")
>>         NVIDIA Quadro FX 580
>>                 Lucid-Lucid :  Worked as expected
>>                 Natty-Lucid :  Works as expected
>>                 Natty-Natty :  Die on Xterm
>>
>> Clients 5 6 & 7: Essentially identical HP xw4100  Intel P4 (i386)
>>   Note:  I haven't tried every combination.  I'm assuming the three
>> machines are interchangeable.  Only their usage histories differ.
>>        NVIDIA (EVGA) Geforce FX5700LE (265 MB)
>>                 Lucid-Lucid :  No data
>>                 Natty-Lucid :  Worked as expected
>>                 Natty-Natty :  Did not properly recognize monitor 
>> capabilities
>>        NVIDIA (PNY) Geforce 6200 (512 mb)
>>                 Lucid-Lucid :  No data
>>                 Natty-Lucid :  Works as expected
>>                 Natty-Natty :  Mostly works, but Slow Video Win7-32-VM
>>
>> Am I the only person seeing this type of thing?  I wouldn't doubt
>> having made some magical mistake that no one else would ever make...
>>
>
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