+1 Great inspiration Aere :-)
Best regards/Nio 2013-12-16 14:45, David Yentzen skrev: > @Aere > Thank you for the detailed reply about developing. You provided some > great insight for those, like me, that are interested in exploring this > idea. Time availability is for me is the issue, like you, I am a bit of > an old timer being 27 years into my career---the thought of switching > career paths would be unpleasant. This pursuit would be purely a > hobbyist (and intellectually enjoyable) venture. > > > Sincerely, > David > > > On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Israel <israeld...@gmail.com > <mailto:israeld...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Thanks!! That was very inspiring! It is good to nudge people like me > to continue on learning how to do it. I think it was very good advice > to take some working applications you wrote and convert them into other > languages, that is a great idea! > > As a side note, are any of you applications ones available in the > repos? If not you should consider submitting them, if it wouldn't take > too much work to make it compatible with Linux (if it isn't already) > > On 12/15/2013 09:26 PM, Aere Greenway wrote: > > On 12/15/2013 06:27 PM, Israel wrote: > >> There is no starting place too small or big, I myself am not really a > >> developer yet, either... I am in the process of learning C++ and > >> furthering my web dev skills (HTML,CSS,JavaScript), so learning to > >> program well is the definite place to start. > >> Getting involved in small projects is a good way to begin. > >> The Ubuntu SDK is pretty easy as a place to start making function > >> apps with nice interfaces with only needing to know some JavaScript. > >> I forwarded your message to the list, as I thought it was for the > >> list(the subject), but it may have been a personal message... sorry > >> if I shouldn't have forwarded it... I didn't realize it until after I > >> forwarded it.. > >> > > All: > > > > As a developer, I don't presume to be able to prescribe a way you can > > get into the business successfully. But I can tell you what I did, > > which was successful for me, in my case. > > > > I am probably more of an old-timer than most of you. > > > > I went to college in the 60's, and got a job at Univac (the original > > company name). I 'rode the wave' of mainframe internal software, > > later specializing in communications software. > > > > But all of that was proprietary software (and microcode), and mostly > > in assembly language. > > > > So when they started laying-off people, I had over 32 years experience > > in software development, but not in modern languages, and without > > recent, relevant, college training. > > > > Yet I did get a job as a Java developer, writing interfaces between > > hospital computer systems. > > > > Here's how I did it. > > > > In my last years at Unisys, seeing the 'writing on the wall', I > > learned (on my own, on my home computer) C++. > > > > Being a computer hobbyist, I had written various video games (and AI > > programs) in C and assembly language, on my home computer. > > > > So I had complex, working applications, written in C. C++ is not that > > big of a jump from C, so I converted several of those applications to > > C++. I even developed a methodology for converting C programs to C++. > > > > Though being experienced in C++ was useful, it wasn't enough to get a > > job. In my job application experience, C++ seemed to be getting > > less-important. > > > > Fortunately, other modern programming languages (JavaScript, Java, and > > C#) are not really all that different from C++. In fact, they are so > > similar that you can get confused as to which language you are using, > > and how you do similar things in the different languages. > > > > So I took those same programs I converted from C to C++, and converted > > them to JavaScript, Java, and C#. > > > > By converting working programs, very little time was involved in > > fixing logic-errors. Most of the debugging was in errors relating to > > the differences in the programming-languages used. So my time was > > efficiently used in learning the details of each programming language. > > > > When I finally had four complex applications developed in each of the > > languages, employers started to be interested in my resume. Of > > course, my 32 years of experience was useful as well (but my lack of > > recent college training was a negative too). > > > > Those applications I developed, I could demonstrate as evidence of my > > work, and my abilities. The context-sensitive help functionality > > seemed to impress them most. > > > > I eventually got a job as a developer. > > > > I am retired now, and am still doing software development. This time, > > something nearer to my passion, with which I think to change the world > > (lofty goals). We shall see. One of my beta-testers thinks it will. > > > > Anyway, good luck on your goals. Unfortunately, luck always seems to > > be involved as well. > > > > I hope this lengthy e-mail will prove to be useful advice to someone. > > > > > -- > Regards > > > -- > Lubuntu-users mailing list > Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users > > > > -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
