Rafael:

It would be good to have all of the relevant information initially within the bug-report.

I will wait to submit it until you report back on what you find out in your additional tests.

I think you are saying that the customization wouldn't work in Lubuntu even if I developed a custom theme (per Nio's suggestion).

- Aere


On 05/04/2014 05:55 AM, Rafael Laguna wrote:
The problem here aren't the themes, is the XSettings daemon. Each environment has its own: XFCE has xfce4-settings-manager, Gnome has gnome-settings-daemon, etc.

The package you're looking for is lxsession. LXDE has a standalone version of the daemon, called lxsession-daemon which loads independent config files. I need to do more tests to see if this is working.

But I insist, this "bug" is not theme related.


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2014-05-04 5:11 GMT+02:00 Israel <israeld...@gmail.com <mailto:israeld...@gmail.com>>:

    On 05/03/2014 08:03 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
    On 05/03/2014 06:48 PM, Israel wrote:
    On 05/03/2014 07:26 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
    Rafael:

    I will report it as a bug.  What package should it be reported
    against?

    Unfortunately, it appears to be one more step down the Ubuntu
    road of taking away customization.  So I'm doubtful anything
    will come of it.  But it means a lot to me, so I will report
    it, nevertheless.

    It may well be the end of color customization.

    - Aere


    On 05/03/2014 05:33 PM, Rafael Laguna wrote:
    More clues. I've tested on a few environments.

    1. Lubuntu does no colorize at all. Nor fgtk2 nor gtk3.
    2. XFCE (using Shimmer's gtk-theme-config) DOES colorize only
    gtk2 (pretty normal, as usually gtk3 is not able to do this)
    3. Mate. The same as XFCE, only colorizes gtk2 apps (I insist,
    gtk3 apps cannot be colorized as is, they need to be tweaked
    via .gtk-3.0 RC).
    4. Ubuntu hasn't this feature anymore.

    So, as colorization works in every environment as eexpected,
    the problem is ours. But themes react fine in other desktops,
    so there's no problem at all on engines or themes RC files.

    So, once tested all steps, there's only one left: the LXDE
    session settings daemon. Shall we declare it as a bug?


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    Lubuntu Artwork Team


    2014-05-04 0:23 GMT+02:00 Rafael Laguna
    <rafaellag...@ubuntu.com <mailto:rafaellag...@ubuntu.com>>:

        Yes, I can't customize Lubuntu-default, experimental Box,
        or even Adwaita. Now I'm testing Xubuntu themes and they
        seem to be un-colorizable too. Something's happening to
        the Desktop Settings daemon. It's not theme or engine
        related. It also affects GTK3.

        Let me try more tests on other environments and I hope to
        have an answer or, at least, a clue.



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        Lubuntu Artwork Team


        2014-05-03 22:37 GMT+02:00 Aere Greenway
        <a...@dvorak-keyboards.com
        <mailto:a...@dvorak-keyboards.com>>:

            All:

            I encountered a problem with Lubuntu 14.04 which (to
            me) is a show-stopper.  I'm sure it isn't as important
            to others.

            I have my own peculiar style of customized colors.
             One of the main reasons my primary system uses
            Lubuntu is because of the color-customization, which
            retains the ease-of-use that was present in Ubuntu 11.04.

            I upgraded a Lubuntu 13.10 system for which the colors
            worked fine. After the upgrade to 14.04, the color
            customization does not appear in any windows I have
            tried (and I have tried a lot of them).

            Even in the window where you change the appearance
            with custom colors, it shows that it remembers the
            colors I specified, but the specified colors are not
            used in the window in which I specify them.

            It appears that color-customization can be done in the
            preferences settings, but the color customization you
            specify is universally ignored.

            Does anyone have any idea of how to make
            color-customization work in Lubuntu 14.04?

-- Sincerely,
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    Aere


    Of course you can always make your own theme, so it will never
    be dead.  I have made a few themes for the WM, and the panel is
    still customizable fortunately.
    @Aere, Rafael did say the bug was in lubuntu session settings
    daemon.

-- Regards


    Israel:

    Is there something in the repository you install to build your
    own theme?  If so, what is the package name I should use (or
    search-for)?

    Using Synaptic Package Manager, searching for 'lubuntu', I do not
see anything that resembles "lubuntu session settings daemon". Do you know what the package name is for it?

-- Sincerely,
    Aere
    Aere, it depends on what kind of theme you are making.  If you
    want the widgets (buttons, progress bars etc...) that is GTK,
    which I don't know a whole lot about.
If you are talking about window borders, etc.. that is openbox. Openbox themes are simple xml files, that you can edit by hand (or
    programatically if you fancy).

    Before you go downloading Geany for some Openbox fun try out:
    http://box-look.org/

    You can also browse for GTK themes:
    http://xfce-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=100
    (If I remember Lubuntu might support GTK3 also... but I don't know
    for 100% sure off the top of my head)

    I hope this helps


    I think the package with the issue is related to the lxsession
    package.... but Rafael, or one of the developers may have a better
    idea what part is actually the problem.

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