Hi Mark, I'm sure the others will scream at me, but as 14.04 desktop is over sized, it will not fit on a CD. Alternate obviously does not have LiveCD option.... However..... have a try of the 12.04 lubuntu desktop PPC, which should have the ability to boot as LiveCD and have the ability to invoke LVM stuff.
head over to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/PreviousReleases#A12.04 and see if it works for you. If that link is slow / not working, then feel free to use my mirror which for 12.04 is at http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/precise/ I'm not a PPC person, but I do know lubuntu is your refuge and I will do what ever I can to help out. Thanks for helping on PPC, Phill. On 8 July 2014 04:15, Mark Millard <mar...@dsl-only.net> wrote: > Hi. > > My original report to the list was informational (and cross checking) > since I did not find any references to the issue when I looked around. My > report did not even ask for help. > > Installing from the same .iso installed fsadm and the lvm software just > fine and I also had no trouble setting up my lvm configuration in the first > place. I've also been able to do everything that I wanted that is allowed > for use on a already existing lvm context with / coming from the lvm live. > (My use is at the simple end of things for lvm so far.) > > But one can not do an action that includes a reduce (shrink) to a live / > (the root file system). So I tried to do that from the rescue-powerpc > selection from the CD (so booted from different root). This is what I was > reporting as not covered by the rescue-powerpc use of the CD. (apt-get is > also missing from that context.) It may be that lvm's coverage for > rescue-powerpc is just not to be complete due to space requirements and the > relative priorities for what can be done fairly directly booted from that > media via that selection. Such is not for me to say. > > Quoting > http://askubuntu.com/questions/124465/how-do-i-shrink-the-root-logical-volume-lv-on-lvm > ... > > It is not possible (to my knowledge) to shrink a filesystem while it is > mounted, so we need to do the actual resizing from a Live CD. > > > As far as I can tell this is still true. For my old iMac G3 context larger > media does not work (the internal slot-drive is a CD-only one). I've not > got around to setting up yet another alternate boot technique to some other > root file system in order to do the reduction from where I can get > everything required in place. At some point I will take the time to deal > with doing that. > > I've not yet created an account to submit bug reports with. It may be a > bit before I get to that. > > > === > Mark Millard > mar...@dsl-only.net > > On Jul 7, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Phill Whiteside <phi...@phillw.net> wrote: > > Hi, > > I recall that desktop PPC went over size. Julien took a sword to the > alternate in order to ensure it is CD sized. In my humble opinion, people > wanting to use LVM's should know how to install the tools needed. (I use > LVM's, run 11 KVM machines and also SEL :D ). > > Do feel free to raise a bug report, I'm hopeful that it is not a massive > job for Julien to add in the library for 14.04.1, but I also do not want to > peck him to the point he gets fed up of PPC. > > Regards, > > Phill. > > > > On 8 July 2014 02:56, Mark Millard <mar...@dsl-only.net> wrote: > >> [Answering Israel's md5 question...] >> >> MD5 (/Volumes/MiscStuff/lubuntu-14.04-alternate-powerpc.iso) = >> 4d9e511daf41dbc44f4506958f0e70f9 >> >> vs. from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/MD5SUMS >> >> 4d9e511daf41dbc44f4506958f0e70f9 *lubuntu-14.04-alternate-powerpc.iso >> >> Extracting the relevant text on matching lines: >> >> 4d9e511daf41dbc44f4506958f0e70f9 >> 4d9e511daf41dbc44f4506958f0e70f9 >> >> An exact match. >> >> >> >> So fsadm is missing from the command shell environment that one has >> access to for rescue-powerpc use of lubuntu-14.04-alternate-powerpc.iso >> burned to a CD. Without it various lvm activities can not be done from that >> environment. But that environment appears to be intended to allow the >> activities one can not do with a live file system. The configuration just >> happened to miss covering the specific type of use. >> >> >> On Thu Jul 3 11:23:13 UTC 2014 Isreal had written... >> >> Hi, >> Did you do a md5sum of the image file you downloaded? >> It is an odd thing we sometimes forget that can cause really wacky >> problems in my experience. >> >> On 07/02/2014 10:22 PM, Mark Millard wrote: >> >* But apt-get is also not available from that shell prompt and * >> > >> >* find / -name apt-get -print* >> > >> >* does not find anything.* >> > >> >* Similarly for sudo. (One is already "root" in this CD-boot context so* >> >* I doubt sudo is ever required.)* >> > >> >* Notably* >> > >> >* find / -name 'lvr*' -print* >> > >> >* finds the relevant /sbin/lvr* lvm programs just fine. But fsadm is* >> >* missing.* >> > >> >* ===* >> >* Mark Millard* >> > *markmi at dsl-only.net* >> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users>* <mailto:**markmi >> at dsl-only.net* >> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users>*>* >> > >> >* On Jul 2, 2014, at 8:12 PM, Andre Rodovalho <**andre.rodovalho at >> gmail.com* <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users> >> >* <mailto:**andre.rodovalho at gmail.com* >> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users>*>> wrote:* >> > >> >* The command is*sudo apt-get install **lvm2** >> > >> >* Sorry about the first email...* >> > >> > >> >* 2014-07-03 0:08 GMT-03:00 Andre Rodovalho <**andre.rodovalho at >> gmail.com* <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users> >> >* <mailto:**andre.rodovalho at gmail.com* >> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users>*>>:* >> > >> >* do a *sudo apt-get install fsadm** >> > >> > >> >* 2014-07-02 22:44 GMT-03:00 Mark Millard <**markmi at dsl-only.net* >> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users> >> >* <mailto:**markmi at dsl-only.net* >> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users>*>>:* >> > >> >* Selecting to boot the CD for "rescue-powerpc", selecting to* >> >* not mount a root file system from the PowerMac, selecting to* >> >* get to the shell, and typing* >> > >> >* find / -name fsadm -print* >> > >> >* does not find a fsadm anywhere.* >> > >> >* Naturally enough typing "fsadm -h" at the command prompt* >> >* results in the message* >> > >> >* /bin/sh: fsadm: not found* >> > >> > >> >* ===* >> >* Mark Millard* >> >* markmi at dsl-only.net <http://dsl-only.net/> <* >> *http://dsl-only.net/* <http://dsl-only.net/>*>* >> > >> >* On Jul 2, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Phill Whiteside <**PhillW at >> PhillW.net* <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users> >> >* <mailto:**PhillW at PhillW.net* >> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users>*>> wrote:* >> > >> >* can you report the outcome of * >> > >> >* fsadm -h* >> > >> >* Regards,* >> > >> >* Phill.* >> > >> > >> >* On 3 July 2014 01:52, Mark Millard <**markmi at dsl-only.net* >> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users> >> >* <mailto:**markmi at dsl-only.net* >> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users>*>> wrote:* >> > >> >* I wanted to release about 45G Bytes of free space from a* >> >* root file system that is in lvm and so I tried to use a >> CD* >> >* built from lubuntu-14.04-alternate-powerpc.iso to do* >> >* lvreduce --resizefs. Unfortunately the attempted use of* >> >* lvreduce reports that it could not find fsadm (and fsadm* >> >* is not in the live file system's /sbin/ with the lv* >> tools).* >> > >> >* Part of the purpose for "rescue-powerpc" (and the like)* >> >* should be to do operations that can not be done with a* >> >* live (root) filesystem. Looks like this specific kind of* >> >* example of that has been missed.* >> > >> >* I have not checked if other processor families have* >> >* similar issues for their "alternate" CDs or if the issue* >> >* is specific to lubuntu vs. existing in other ubuntu* >> >* variants. Nor have I checked other types of .iso's for* >> >* powerpc.* >> > >> >* ===* >> >* Mark Millard* >> >* markmi at dsl-only.net <http://dsl-only.net/> <* >> *http://dsl-only.net/* <http://dsl-only.net/>*>* >> > >> > >> > >> >* --* >> >* Lubuntu-users mailing list* >> > *Lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com* >> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users> >> >* <mailto:**Lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com* >> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users>*>* >> >* Modify settings or unsubscribe at:* >> > *https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users* >> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >* -- * >> > *https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw* >> <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw> >> > >> > >> >* --* >> >* Lubuntu-users mailing list* >> > *Lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com* >> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users> >> >* <mailto:**Lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com* >> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users>*>* >> >* Modify settings or unsubscribe at:* >> > *https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users* >> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> === >> Mark Millard >> markmi at dsl-only.net >> >> >> -- >> Lubuntu-users mailing list >> Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users >> >> > > > -- > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw > > -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
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