Took all day, but Joe was there babysitting and correcting things for us.
Basically there is a bug in svn 1.6.17 that the CMS is based on, which is
making our commits a pain at the moment. Once that gets upgraded it should be
relatively smooth sailing. It won't help us though if we want still planning on
updating massive amounts of documentation on a regular basis. Thanks Joe, I
can't thank you enough for the help today.
~PrescottDate: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:49:48 -0800
From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx...@hotmail.com
After some testing it appears that this performancebug is fixed in svn 1.7, but
the CMS is currentlyrunning 1.6.17. I hope to have the host upgradedwithin the
next 30 days or so, but for now I stillrecommend using the script.
From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Alright - sounds good
Thanks again!
~P
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:25:45 -0800
From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx...@hotmail.com
I'm having some svn people look at the merge issues.Right now all I can suggest
is that you publish usingthe publish.pl script on people.apache.org. It's
takingme about 10 min total to carry that out, which is certainlytoo long given
the nature of the changes it's merging,but I'll let you know what I find
out.
From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
It's butt ugly - all in one directory, 8206 files. I'd prefer a more natural
docs structure, but that's how it gets generated
~P
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:10:47 -0800
From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx...@hotmail.com
Ok lemee kill it and use the publish.pl scripton people to see if I can get it
to work right.Just curious tho- about how many files do youhave within that
docs dir- all in one dir I presume?
From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012
5:08 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
I'm thinking still merge funk
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:05:21 -0800
From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx...@hotmail.com
Looks like it just completed. Hmm, goahead and publish and lets try this
onemore time.
From: Joe Schaefer
<joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
To: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Yeah more merge funk. Leave it run for now,but don't take any further action
until youhear from me.
From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February
15, 2012 4:59 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
I hate to be the bearer of bad news... still taking days to publish (I'm not
sure if there is a merge error or not) let me know I'll kill this quick
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:54:52 -0800
From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx...@hotmail.com
Yeah try out the webgui and edit/commit/publisha minor change. It should take
you no more thana minute or so total.
From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Man that sounds like a tool full of awesome!
Ok - so for the moment no new docs, a simple edit should be quick?
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:48:40 -0800
From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx...@hotmail.com
Ok it's now fixed and your site should work as expectedat this point. I had to
redact the lazy_publish featureand reserve it for admins only because you don't
actuallyhave permission to completely remove your publication
sitefrom svn and
that's not something I can offer
without
providingyou and every other
committer with the ability to nukeeach other's entire sites.
From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
To: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Yeah well it's probably timing out somewhere along the line.I'm looking into
your svn tree now to see if I can figure outwhat's going on. Basically the svn
merge it's running isdoing evil things.
From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com>
To:
joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:18 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Sorry, I'm not seeing merge errors, just seeing my browser waiting for a
response..I'll hold up
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:15:32 -0800
From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx...@hotmail.com; site-...@apache.org
Stop Prescott when you get a merge error please.There's something funky going
on here that I needto dig into and running publish again won't magicallyfix it.
From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; site-...@apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:52 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Ah ok, I thought we were past that part - I'm losing track, just blinding
taking orders at this point :)
~P
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:50:41 -0800
From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx...@hotmail.com; site-...@apache.org
Yes as I explained before by using lazy_publishyou will incur a performance hit
the first timeyou subsequently publish normally. Once thiscompletes
things should behave
properly.
From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; site-...@apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:48 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
small change still seems to be taking longer than it should..
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:41:20 -0800
From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx...@hotmail.com; site-...@apache.org
No a regular publish this time please.
From: Prescott
Nasser
<geobmx...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; site-...@apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
I started the regular publish - but stopped that, should I do a lazy publish?
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:36:57 -0800
From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; geobmx...@hotmail.com; site-...@apache.org
Ok that seems to have gone thru cleanly this time.Now please make another minor
edit to the site andlet's flush things thru one last
time.
From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
To: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com>; "site-...@apache.org"
<site-...@apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
I had a bug in lazy_publish- please use that insteadwhen you get an error
message indicating the mergefailed (like you just did). I'll keep an eye on
thingswhile you do.
From: Prescott Nasser
<geobmx...@hotmail.com>
To:
joe_schae...@yahoo.com; site-...@apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:49 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
So, that worked, site was all there - looking good.
I made a small change to the index.html page (to up the words that it shows
from the blog roll). And hit publish - I seem to be stuck (taking forever)...
Not sure why that would occur?
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:31:02 -0800
From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx...@hotmail.com
Seems to have
worked,
no?
From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:11 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Here's goes..
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:56:11 -0800
From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
To: geobmx...@hotmail.com; site-...@apache.org
Try https://cms.apache.org/lucene.net/lazy_publish
Quick and dirty if it works ;-)
From: Prescott Nasser
<geobmx...@hotmail.com>
To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; site-...@apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:27 PM
Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
I'm sorry :( Please by all means take a stab - I'll do nothing until I hear
back.
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:24:46 -0800
> From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; geobmx...@hotmail.com; site-...@apache.org
>
> Well I watched your attempt to publish the site and you guys
> have managed to break svn merge with too many adds/deletes
> of the same paths within a single merge session. I suggest
> you let me fix your site by nuking the publication tree
> and copying things over from staging.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
Joe Schaefer
<joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
> > To:
Prescott Nasser
<geobmx...@hotmail.com>;
"site-...@apache.org"
<site-...@apache.org>
> >
Cc:
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> >
> >
> >
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com>
> >> To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; site-...@apache.org
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:58 AM
> >> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks Joe, I really appreciate your help.
> >>
> >> My next task was to tackle that doc issue. I was experimenting with the
> > upload a
> >> tarball option hoping that would reduce the number of files in the repo,
> >> but
> > I
> >> found out all it does is unpack it for me, saves me some bandwidth, but
> >> does
> >
nothing
> >> to save the tree.
> >>
> >> A couple of weeks ago, I was making no changes to the docs (and there were
> > no pending changes that I saw), and just making a minor change to the index
> > page
> > (to announce a new version of Lucene.Net) took FOREVER - same timeout
> > issues.
> > This lead me to believe, that regardless of the size of the change, the
> > number
> > of files will always be a PIA. But it seems like that shouldn't be the case?
> >
> >
> > Hard to say what the cause of that delay was, but I can assure you it had
> > little
> > or nothing
> > to do with the overall size of your site. The only O(N) algorithm involved
> > is
> > when the build
> > system svn up's the tree, and if the changes are already present that
> > process shouldn't take
> > more
than a handful of seconds even for a 10GB site. Of course the actual time
> > may fluctuate
> > wildly due to server conditions on the cms or svn host systems, but there
> > you
> > go.
> >
> >
> > I just added some docs about this to the bottom of the
> > http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref page
> > you might want to look over.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I will publish what we have now (need to fix a minor issue in the 2.9.4
> > documentation first), and give a shot at making a minor change. Hopefully
> > publishing just a minor change in that case will be quick and painless.
> >
> >
> > Good luck. I suggest using the publish.pl script on people.apache.org and
> > grabbing a cuppa
coffee
> >
while things progress.
> >
