Is it safe to add content to the site through the CMS again? Anything to be wary of or not explicitly do?
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com>wrote: > > Took all day, but Joe was there babysitting and correcting things for us. > Basically there is a bug in svn 1.6.17 that the CMS is based on, which is > making our commits a pain at the moment. Once that gets upgraded it should > be relatively smooth sailing. It won't help us though if we want still > planning on updating massive amounts of documentation on a regular basis. > Thanks Joe, I can't thank you enough for the help today. > ~PrescottDate: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:49:48 -0800 > From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > To: geobmx...@hotmail.com > > After some testing it appears that this performancebug is fixed in svn > 1.7, but the CMS is currentlyrunning 1.6.17. I hope to have the host > upgradedwithin the next 30 days or so, but for now I stillrecommend using > the script. > > From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> > To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:28 PM > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > > > > > > > Alright - sounds good > > Thanks again! > > ~P > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:25:45 -0800 > From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > To: geobmx...@hotmail.com > > I'm having some svn people look at the merge issues.Right now all I can > suggest is that you publish usingthe publish.pl script on > people.apache.org. It's takingme about 10 min total to carry that out, > which is certainlytoo long given the nature of the changes it's merging,but > I'll let you know what I find > out. > > From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> > To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:13 PM > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > > > > > > > It's butt ugly - all in one directory, 8206 files. I'd prefer a more > natural docs structure, but that's how it gets generated > > ~P > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:10:47 -0800 > From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > To: geobmx...@hotmail.com > > Ok lemee kill it and use the publish.pl scripton people to see if I can > get it to work right.Just curious tho- about how many files do youhave > within that docs dir- all in one dir I presume? > From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> > To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 > 5:08 PM > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > > > > > > > I'm thinking still merge funk > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:05:21 -0800 > From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > To: geobmx...@hotmail.com > > Looks like it just completed. Hmm, goahead and publish and lets try this > onemore time. > > From: Joe Schaefer > <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> > To: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:02 PM > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > > > Yeah more merge funk. Leave it run for now,but don't take any further > action until youhear from me. > > From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> > To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com > Sent: Wednesday, February > 15, 2012 4:59 PM > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > > > > > > > I hate to be the bearer of bad news... still taking days to publish (I'm > not sure if there is a merge error or not) let me know I'll kill this quick > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:54:52 -0800 > From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > To: geobmx...@hotmail.com > > Yeah try out the webgui and edit/commit/publisha minor change. It should > take you no more thana minute or so total. > > From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> > To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > > > > > > > Man that sounds like a tool full of awesome! > > Ok - so for the moment no new docs, a simple edit should be quick? > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:48:40 -0800 > From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > To: geobmx...@hotmail.com > > Ok it's now fixed and your site should work as expectedat this point. I > had to redact the lazy_publish featureand reserve it for admins only > because you don't actuallyhave permission to completely remove your > publication > sitefrom svn and > that's not something I can offer > without > providingyou and every other > committer with the ability to nukeeach other's entire sites. > > > From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> > To: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:20 PM > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > > > Yeah well it's probably timing out somewhere along the line.I'm looking > into your svn tree now to see if I can figure outwhat's going on. > Basically the svn merge it's running isdoing evil things. > > From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> > To: > joe_schae...@yahoo.com > > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:18 PM > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > > > > > > > Sorry, I'm not seeing merge errors, just seeing my browser waiting for a > response..I'll hold up > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:15:32 -0800 > From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > To: geobmx...@hotmail.com; site-...@apache.org > > Stop Prescott when you get a merge error please.There's something funky > going on here that I needto dig into and running publish again won't > magicallyfix it. > > > From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> > To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; site-...@apache.org > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:52 PM > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > > > > > > > Ah ok, I thought we were past that part - I'm losing track, just blinding > taking orders at this point :) > > ~P > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:50:41 -0800 > From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > To: geobmx...@hotmail.com; site-...@apache.org > > Yes as I explained before by using lazy_publishyou will incur a > performance hit the first timeyou subsequently publish normally. Once > thiscompletes > things should behave > properly. > > From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> > To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; site-...@apache.org > > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:48 PM > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > > > > > > > small change still seems to be taking longer than it should.. > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:41:20 -0800 > From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > To: geobmx...@hotmail.com; site-...@apache.org > > No a regular publish this time please. > > > From: Prescott > Nasser > <geobmx...@hotmail.com> > To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; site-...@apache.org > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:39 PM > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > > > > > > > > I started the regular publish - but stopped that, should I do a lazy > publish? > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:36:57 -0800 > From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; geobmx...@hotmail.com; site-...@apache.org > > Ok that seems to have gone thru cleanly this time.Now please make another > minor edit to the site andlet's flush things thru one last > time. > > > From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> > To: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com>; "site-...@apache.org" < > site-...@apache.org> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:30 PM > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > > > I had a bug in lazy_publish- please use that insteadwhen you get an error > message indicating the mergefailed (like you just did). I'll keep an eye > on thingswhile you do. > > From: Prescott Nasser > <geobmx...@hotmail.com> > To: > joe_schae...@yahoo.com; site-...@apache.org > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:49 PM > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > > > > > > > So, that worked, site was all there - looking good. > > I made a small change to the index.html page (to up the words that it > shows from the blog roll). And hit publish - I seem to be stuck (taking > forever)... Not sure why that would occur? > > > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:31:02 -0800 > From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > To: geobmx...@hotmail.com > > Seems to have > worked, > no? > > From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> > To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:11 PM > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > > > > > > > Here's goes.. > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:56:11 -0800 > From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > To: geobmx...@hotmail.com; site-...@apache.org > > Try https://cms.apache.org/lucene.net/lazy_publish > Quick and dirty if it works ;-) > > > > From: Prescott Nasser > <geobmx...@hotmail.com> > To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; site-...@apache.org > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:27 PM > Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > > > > > > > I'm sorry :( Please by all means take a stab - I'll do nothing until I > hear back. > > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:24:46 -0800 > > From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com > > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > > To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; geobmx...@hotmail.com; site-...@apache.org > > > > Well I watched your attempt to publish the site and you guys > > have managed to break svn merge with too many adds/deletes > > of the same paths within a single merge session. I suggest > > you let me fix your site by nuking the publication tree > > and copying things over from staging. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > Joe Schaefer > <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> > > > To: > Prescott Nasser > <geobmx...@hotmail.com>; > "site-...@apache.org" > <site-...@apache.org> > > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:14 PM > > > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > > > > > > > > > > > >> ________________________________ > > >> From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> > > >> To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; site-...@apache.org > > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:58 AM > > >> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks Joe, I really appreciate your help. > > >> > > >> My next task was to tackle that doc issue. I was experimenting with > the > > > upload a > > >> tarball option hoping that would reduce the number of files in the > repo, but > > > I > > >> found out all it does is unpack it for me, saves me some bandwidth, > but does > > > > nothing > > >> to save the tree. > > >> > > >> A couple of weeks ago, I was making no changes to the docs (and there > were > > > no pending changes that I saw), and just making a minor change to the > index page > > > (to announce a new version of Lucene.Net) took FOREVER - same timeout > issues. > > > This lead me to believe, that regardless of the size of the change, > the number > > > of files will always be a PIA. But it seems like that shouldn't be the > case? > > > > > > > > > Hard to say what the cause of that delay was, but I can assure you it > had little > > > or nothing > > > to do with the overall size of your site. The only O(N) algorithm > involved is > > > when the build > > > system svn up's the tree, and if the changes are already present that > > > process shouldn't take > > > more > than a handful of seconds even for a 10GB site. Of course the actual time > > > may fluctuate > > > wildly due to server conditions on the cms or svn host systems, but > there you > > > go. > > > > > > > > > I just added some docs about this to the bottom of the > > > http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref page > > > you might want to look over. > > > > > > > > >> > > >> I will publish what we have now (need to fix a minor issue in the > 2.9.4 > > > documentation first), and give a shot at making a minor change. > Hopefully > > > publishing just a minor change in that case will be quick and painless. > > > > > > > > > Good luck. I suggest using the publish.pl script on people.apache.organd > > > grabbing a cuppa > coffee > > > > while things progress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
