On Saturday 26 June 2004 09:47, Lunghabo James wrote:
> Hello Luggers
>
> Below is an interesting note on the status of VOIP in Uganda. A legislator
> in our parliament just assured us that it is not illegal. So can I see
> some smiles on your faces ?

I think the question to ask is what interest the regulator has in MTN/UTL (was 
there something about exclusivity back in the day).

The ILEC's (Incumbent Local Exchange Carriers) could have a case against the 
CLEC's (Competitive Local Exchange Carriers) if the license issued by the 
regulator ensures the regulator enables a playing field conducive for the 
incumbents.

I'd assume their excuse would be withdrawal from the market (UIA/UCC takes a 
hit here), or failure to satisfy the T&C's of the license granted (UCC/ILEC 
takes a hit here).

Having said, IIRC, the main issue with VoIP with the regulator and the 
incumbents was CLEC's originating and/or terminating international voice 
minutes. For this reason, it is my understanding that multiple organisations 
within Uganda have got their VoIP networks in place (some of these spanning 
multiple countries/continents too), as long as they don't break this rule.

However, if this rule isn't cast in stone, then what other rule isn't :)?

Mark.

>
> Wire
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [i-network] Re: FW: US mood about outsourcing
> From: "Johnson Nkuuhe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, June 25, 2004 5:05 pm
> To: "Lunghabo James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>          "I-Network Uganda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Hello All,
>
> VOIP is not illegal, and in fact UCC has asked people to use it and see
> who can sustain a case in court against the user.
>
> Please go ahead, and the people to come after you will be MTN and UTL,
> not UCC.  UCC will be your allies.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Johnson N
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lunghabo James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 25 June 2004 09:10
> To: I-Network Uganda
> Subject: [i-network] Re: FW: US mood about outsourcing
>
>
> Members
>
> With such realities in the US market, Outsourcing would have been a
> darling industry for Uganda(ns) by now. However without wanting to be a
> messenger of bad news, Tanzania and Rwanda are currently the most ideal
> outsourcing locations in East Africa especially as regards Voice and
> International Data Gateway related services are concerned. I just dont
> see any one thinking about Uganda in the near future until some of these
> crucial issues are ironed out by the legislators. By and large, UIA has
> tried to tout Outsourcing as the next big thing in this country but its
> efforts are shot down by regulators.
>
> By the way can someone please inform us whether Voice Over IP is illegal
> in Uganda? What I mean is that can UCC sustain a battle in court if they
> found some one using the technology? With my little knowledge, I have
> been informed that VOIP lies in the grey areas (undefined). So its not
> exactly illegal. Hon Nkuuhe, what is the situation like?
>
> Wire
>
> >From the keyboard of John Musajjakawa
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fred Ddungu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 24 June 2004 17:06
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: US mood about outsourcing
> >
> > John,
> > I would like you to understand the mood about outsourcing in US today
> > it's Read news below.
> >
> >
> > A Bush administration official says the U.S. can best protect IT jobs
> > by investing in training and education and not by enacting legislation
> > to prohibit offshore outsourcing.
> > By Paul McDougall June 24 2004
> >
> >
> > A Bush administration official Wednesday said the U.S. can best
> > protect IT jobs by investing in training and education and not by
> > enacting legislation that would prohibit offshore outsourcing. "If we
> > embrace isolation and reject working with the rest of the world, it
> > will be to our detriment," said Phillip Bond, under secretary of
> > commerce for technology. Bond was speaking at a panel on offshore
> > outsourcing in New York City sponsored by the Information Technology
> > Association of America, a trade group representing high-tech
> > manufacturers, who generally oppose limits on offshoring.
> >
> > Bond said the Bush administration is focused on creating a business
> > and educational environment that will foster the growth of high-tech
> > jobs. He said the president favors a permanent research and
> > development tax credit under which businesses could write off a
> > portion of expenses related to research. Bond also said the
> > administration wants to create programs that inspire more school
> > children--particularly girls--with an interest in science and
> > technology at an early age. "We lose the women in middle school. We
> > have to stop losing one-half of our talent pool," Bond said.
> >
> > To date, Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry has sent mixed
> > signals on his view on offshoring. He's said that U.S. federal
> > contracts should be performed "where possible" by U.S. workers. He's
> > also said he favors laws that would require U.S. companies that
> > provide customer service from offshore locations to tell consumers
> > they are doing so.
> >
> > The issue of offshoring is bound to become more politicized as the
> > November elections draw closer. At present, 37 states have legislation
> > pending that would prohibit sending state contracts offshore. Some
> > state CIOs, however, feel that budget cuts have forced them to
> > consider offshoring as a practical way to deliver services to
> > residents while controlling costs. Last year, cuts forced the state of
> > Connecticut to reduce its IT staff by 20%. As a result, state CIO Rock
> > Regan says he's looked at offshore outsourcing as a way to fill his IT
> > labor gap.
> >
> > Widespread anti-offshoring sentiment, however, has forced Regan to
> > proceed cautiously when evaluating outsourcing options. "We do things
> > very quietly. We do things under the radar," said Regan, speaking at
> > today's panel. Regan downplays concerns that offshoring could
> > compromise residents' security or privacy. "It's no different from
> > dealing with a vendor in the U.S.," Regan said. "It's irrelevant where
> > people are doing the work."
> >
> >
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