On Thursday 08 July 2004 16:32, Bernard  Wanyama wrote:
> Hi,
>
> One more thing, it is a well-known fact that the management of any
> organisation has the right to monitor and control the usage of its
> resources to ensure that they are not being misused or abused.

While that right may exist, how it's exercised will determine good governance, 
or should I say, management.

This depends on the company's corporate policy, what industry it's in e.t.c. 
For instance, in an ISP, it would be find to filter 'porn-galore' for sales 
and top management, but not for the techies running the hardware; they need 
to test to make sure all is well in userland.

A law firm may have a different policy, as may a finance firm and so on. 
Basically, if there are rules, it's not enough that they aren't broken, but 
that they can be enforced (intelligent filtering software, e.t.c.). I don't 
think following someone around the office all day constitutes good governance 
(except in a few places :).

>
> And, all employees are required to use those resources in accordance with
> the laid down rules and principles of the organisation, being bound by
> their acceptance to work for that organisation.
> As they say, "If your boss doesn't let you......, find another job!".

That's good and well, but watching someone like a hawk is the easy way out. If 
they don't comply, let them go! Don't justify their existence if they aren't 
productive.

Mark.

>
>
> Bernard Wanyama
> Support Engineer
> Linux Solutions Uganda
> Cell: +256 71 193979
>
> > On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 05:29, Wire James wrote:
> >> Ezra
> >
> > That was Ernest:-) but I agree though that's debatable too.
> >
> >> Not in Uganda :-). You would certainly lose.
> >>
> >> W
> >>
> >> > Wire, if you were my boss and tried to implement such, i'd sue you
> >> >
> >> :)
> >> :
> >> > ernest.
> >> >
> >> > ---------- Original Message -----------
> >> > From: Ezra Banoba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Sent: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 11:57:17 -0700
> >> > Subject: Re: lug_: Monitoring Software
> >> >
> >> >> On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 00:23, Kabagambe Kenneth wrote:
> >> >> <snip>
> >> >>
> >> >> > The question that you should ask iss "How do youdefine
> >> >>
> >> >> productivity?" Is it the number of lines of code you write per
> >>
> >> day?
> >>
> >> >> > The number of patches you have installed on your Exchange server
> >>
> >> in
> >>
> >> >> the
> >> >
> >> > last month?
> >> >
> >> >> > The number of times youhave logged in to your OpenVMS box? How
> >>
> >> many processes you are running?
> >>
> >> >> > Or how many messages you have sent using TrueAfrican, that arent
> >> >>
> >> >> work
> >> >
> >> > related/just
> >> >
> >> >> > showing your lack of productivity.
> >> >>
> >> >> That's exactly the point. Software to monitor productivity in that
> >>
> >> sense is only effective in cases where the productivity yardstick is
> >> straight forward eg for manual labour [how many sacks of maize has
> >> Smangaliso delivered in two hours]
> >>
> >> >> My point exactly, the scenario in question here is impractical.
> >>
> >> Take for instance, a programmer's productivity cannot be
> >>
> >> >> measured/determined by the time spent looking at code in emacs!
> >>
> >> since the s/w will be monitoring what user x is doing at time t.
> >>
> >> >> > I know of an OCorganisation that blocks all internet access via
> >>
> >> port
> >>
> >> >> 80 and  filters all outgoing mail
> >> >>
> >> >> > that doesnt have @domain.com extensions in the belief that it
> >>
> >> will
> >>
> >> >> give the  staff more focused on their work :(
> >> >>
> >> >> > > I would like to see the code for this:-)
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > The goal is to ensure that one can monitor what the staff
> >> >>
> >> >> members do with their computers during working hours.
> >> >>
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> >> >> --
> >> >> Ezra Banoba
> >> >> Network Engineer
> >> >> one2net
> >> >> www.one2net.co.ug
> >> >>
> >> >> "Doing well is a result of Doing good. That's what capitalism is
> >>
> >> all about."
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> >> > ------- End of Original Message -------
> >> >
> >> >
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> > --
> > Ezra Banoba
> > Network Engineer
> > one2net
> > www.one2net.co.ug
> >
> > "Doing well is a result of Doing good. That's what capitalism is all
> > about."
> >
> >
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