Guys Maybe I stated it in a confusing way. The client nees a software that can be used to assess some one's out put on a day to day basis, not spying and trying to see which key strokes he is manipulating.
I actually have been able to preview Achievo on www.achievo.org and it seems to be just about what is required by this guy. Wire > On Thursday 08 July 2004 16:32, Bernard Wanyama wrote: >> Hi, >> >> One more thing, it is a well-known fact that the management of any >> organisation has the right to monitor and control the usage of its >> resources to ensure that they are not being misused or abused. > > While that right may exist, how it's exercised will determine good > governance, or should I say, management. > > This depends on the company's corporate policy, what industry it's in > e.t.c. For instance, in an ISP, it would be find to filter > 'porn-galore' for sales and top management, but not for the techies > running the hardware; they need to test to make sure all is well in > userland. > > A law firm may have a different policy, as may a finance firm and so on. > Basically, if there are rules, it's not enough that they aren't broken, > but that they can be enforced (intelligent filtering software, e.t.c.). > I don't think following someone around the office all day constitutes > good governance (except in a few places :). > >> >> And, all employees are required to use those resources in accordance >> with the laid down rules and principles of the organisation, being >> bound by their acceptance to work for that organisation. >> As they say, "If your boss doesn't let you......, find another job!". > > That's good and well, but watching someone like a hawk is the easy way > out. If they don't comply, let them go! Don't justify their existence > if they aren't productive. > > Mark. > >> >> >> Bernard Wanyama >> Support Engineer >> Linux Solutions Uganda >> Cell: +256 71 193979 >> >> > On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 05:29, Wire James wrote: >> >> Ezra >> > >> > That was Ernest:-) but I agree though that's debatable too. >> > >> >> Not in Uganda :-). You would certainly lose. >> >> >> >> W >> >> >> >> > Wire, if you were my boss and tried to implement such, i'd sue >> you >> >> > >> >> :) >> >> : >> >> > ernest. >> >> > >> >> > ---------- Original Message ----------- >> >> > From: Ezra Banoba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > Sent: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 11:57:17 -0700 >> >> > Subject: Re: lug_: Monitoring Software >> >> > >> >> >> On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 00:23, Kabagambe Kenneth wrote: >> >> >> <snip> >> >> >> >> >> >> > The question that you should ask iss "How do youdefine >> >> >> >> >> >> productivity?" Is it the number of lines of code you write per >> >> >> >> day? >> >> >> >> >> > The number of patches you have installed on your Exchange >> server >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> > >> >> > last month? >> >> > >> >> >> > The number of times youhave logged in to your OpenVMS box? How >> >> >> >> many processes you are running? >> >> >> >> >> > Or how many messages you have sent using TrueAfrican, that >> arent >> >> >> >> >> >> work >> >> > >> >> > related/just >> >> > >> >> >> > showing your lack of productivity. >> >> >> >> >> >> That's exactly the point. Software to monitor productivity in >> that >> >> >> >> sense is only effective in cases where the productivity yardstick >> is straight forward eg for manual labour [how many sacks of maize >> has Smangaliso delivered in two hours] >> >> >> >> >> My point exactly, the scenario in question here is impractical. >> >> >> >> Take for instance, a programmer's productivity cannot be >> >> >> >> >> measured/determined by the time spent looking at code in emacs! >> >> >> >> since the s/w will be monitoring what user x is doing at time t. >> >> >> >> >> > I know of an OCorganisation that blocks all internet access >> via >> >> >> >> port >> >> >> >> >> 80 and filters all outgoing mail >> >> >> >> >> >> > that doesnt have @domain.com extensions in the belief that it >> >> >> >> will >> >> >> >> >> give the staff more focused on their work :( >> >> >> >> >> >> > > I would like to see the code for this:-) >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > The goal is to ensure that one can monitor what the staff >> >> >> >> >> >> members do with their computers during working hours. >> >> >> >> >> >> > --------------------------------------------- >> >> >> > This service is hosted on the Infocom network >> >> >> > http://www.infocom.co.ug >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Ezra Banoba >> >> >> Network Engineer >> >> >> one2net >> >> >> www.one2net.co.ug >> >> >> >> >> >> "Doing well is a result of Doing good. That's what capitalism is >> >> >> >> all about." >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------- >> >> >> This service is hosted on the Infocom network >> >> >> http://www.infocom.co.ug >> >> > >> >> > ------- End of Original Message ------- >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > --------------------------------------------- >> >> > This service is hosted on the Infocom network >> >> > http://www.infocom.co.ug >> > >> > -- >> > Ezra Banoba >> > Network Engineer >> > one2net >> > www.one2net.co.ug >> > >> > "Doing well is a result of Doing good. That's what capitalism is all >> about." >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------- >> > This service is hosted on the Infocom network >> > http://www.infocom.co.ug >> >> --------------------------------------------- >> This service is hosted on the Infocom network >> http://www.infocom.co.ug > > > --------------------------------------------- > This service is hosted on the Infocom network > http://www.infocom.co.ug -- "Although about 3 million computers get sold every year in China, but people don't pay for the software," he said. "Someday they will, though. As long as they are going to steal it, we want them to steal ours. They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade." Bill Gates as Quoted by C|Net News.com --------------------------------------------- This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
