You are right that's why we need a group like this one.You guys here have to talk to the boses step by step Get all the bad things about the Software, print it. I know you can even try to bring it down yourself.Let me tell you onething if you are a sysadmin and you like a new, faster machine what do you do?"Cripple the server for the better" you won't get hurt next day they will ask for your Server room requirements .
One thing I like with the company I work for we make decisions of what we put on the Racks and another thing try to get jobs where the Bosses are Linux compatible (Very few paying ones) ;-) .
Otherwise am sorry for people like Semats.
But can advise you keep attaching those viruses to the  mails destined to the decision makers and send them those sites warning about viruses and bugs  released to scare them.Watchout  don't try this in office you might get fired  :-) .
Kiggs you can change a system and can help you.Just Crush it many ways to do it and you know :-D
Niceday guys someone is calling me sorry for the common mistakes in English
BYE
Ronny

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 25 April 2005 01:27, JFL wrote:
In your dreams. Wire can testify of my drive to introduce OpenExchange and
my
dismal failure... The problem is always "do we get a support contract,
phoe
numbers to call, etc?"
    

True true guys. In some organisations, changing systems is not a piece of
cake. Many of you might be lucky to work in companies where you determine
what runs on the servers. However, companies like MTN which are
international tend to have policies laid out at the Head quarters in JHB
and what you do in a "branch" office like Kampala is a result of already
laid out procedures.

I would be the last to blame some one like Semat 4 not introducing a FOSS
mail server in that place because he is way down the peck order and any
attempts to talk make him be seen as a "freak or zealot". So what does one
do in such a case? Keep MUM and run yo own Mail server.

Kiggs, if u have contacts with the Group IT manager, try maybe at that
level otherwise in UG, it is a big trick even though you produced 20
support certificates from Novell :).

Wire

  
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