It's not a joke I am making.

My point is that if I see a woman, I don't want to approach (professionally speaking) her because she is a woman. I want to approach her because I am interested in what she is bringing to the table.

To base on gender is simply discrimination. I am calling on the LinuxChix to indicate that while I am fully in support of women in Linux and more generally in IT, that I advise them to aspire to merit and not to rest on the laurels of gender.

Otherwise, please explain to me why it is that we are not in need of a LinuxDudes, because there are already so many of us in it (i.e. male dominated) ... I am saying it is male dominated because of lack of interest in the female section. I think LinuxChix will help get more women interested. But I am saying that they should focus on MERIT and not GENDER and compete with us men on MERIT, so as to hopefully become BETTER THAN US.

I want more females. But I want them to be real and to perform and not to have them in there because their bodies are different from mine. If you let women into IT/Linux without telling them that they should do it on MERIT and not on GENDER alone, then it is you who are discriminating by implicitly telling them that it is ok not to have merit because of their gender.

-- G.

On Feb 7, 2006, at 11:07 AM, NUWAMANYA Daniel wrote:

I think this is going too far. All of us know Ernest was trying to crack although it looks like he's not good at it. We shouldn't make a big fuss about it. If you feel you want to compete with the ladies by starting "linux dudes", go ahead but am sure there won't be enough quorum.

Guido Sohne wrote:

On Feb 6, 2006, at 10:04 AM, Ernest, B.M (AfriNIC - ZA) wrote:

It is high time we started Linux Dudes Uganda :-)
PS: Don't flame me.


no need for flames. By default, some things are for dudes. Thats why when chix take the plunge and join, they want publicity :)


My experience has been that women in IT are more hampered by lack of hard work and self application (as well as general lack of interest or low level of interest) than by anything else. But we can't come right out and say this, to avoid ruffling feathers?

Why should we take a mediocre bunch and praise them, and not praise the men who are pursuing deep knowledge and excellence? Am not accusing anyone of being inadequate but am rather saying that they should prove themselves on merit, not gender.

I can understand how publicity would help, but I think that to reward gender on its own basis is itself a form of discrimination.

-- G.
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