On 11/23/06, Peter C. Ndikuwera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ummmm....
I think you'll find that the SuSE supporters on this list aren't de facto
Novell supporters. We're FOSS supporters first and foremost.
Maybe I'm being idealist here, but there's no reason for the new
Microsoft-Novell partnership to actually affect openSUSE.
You are actually an idealist or naive i see "but there's no reason for the new
Microsoft-Novell partnership to actually affect openSUSE." Opensuse
is not a community project it is a creation of novell and owned by
novell, contribution to this project means you have to endose the
contribution agreement put in place by M$/Novell first.
Next most project could possibly in the near future change thier
licensing to ensure that companies like novell dont use the very
software that has been created by the community aganist them or as
bargaining chips to conclude deals like this one that only benefit
novell and it's shareholders, this would sound the death kneel for
opensuse as they would not be able to package or use these products. A
good candidates for crippling a distro like suse could be the gnu C
library and the GCC collection of tools possibly if linus sees the
light now the linux kernel under GPL3 would mean the end of openSuse.
After all, now
that they've given us the code for YaST they're free to go to bed with The
Great Satan (tm)....
:-)
On 11/23/06, andrew colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/9/06, andrew colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 9/9/06, Victor van Reijswoud <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >
> > > On 9 Sep 2006, at 10:55, Ernest, B.M (AfriNIC - ZA) wrote:
> > >
> > > > andrew colin wrote the following on 09/09/2006 09:25 AM:
> > > >> I agree i think you must have driven a german car in the days of
the
> > > >> box shape BMW or the VW beetle. I just cannot compare a present day
> > > >> BMW,Audi or VW to a Citroen, renault or Peugeut.
> > >
> > > Peugeot you mean?
> >
> > That is really trival so i will not respond to that.
> >
> > >
> > > > plus, recent reliability surveys put all french marques at the
bottom
> > > > of the list.
> > >
> > > I was talking about comfort. And did the reliability test include
> > > driving in East Congo?
> > >
> > > In line of that, it may be interesting to see what is relevant in
> > > selecting a distro in an African context. Money is an issue as we
> >
> > Of course money is an issue but historical context is another factor
> > to consider any why, if you have used Linux for some time, it is still
> > recent memory that SUSE for a long time had no FREE version available
> > for download apart from a partially disabled demo version. SUSE
> > development was for a long time a closed process for a few select
> > people that is a NO NO in the african context as OSS is to empower
> > africans not just by providing them with a stright jacket FREE as in
> > BEER OS with EXTRA's withheld for paying customers but a truly open
> > solution enabling then to extend, provide services and and generally
> > spur on various related inovations. SUSE/NOVELL is not that solution
> > NOVELL only jumped on the OSS bandwargon when they realised thier
> > IPX/NETWARE platform had become irelevant, they dont stand for open
> > source ideals at all for them it is just another oppotunity to make
> > money for the board. In comes opensuse,,, well we all know what that
> > is modeled on
> >
>
> Hate to say it but i told u so,
http://techp.org/petition/show/1 I
> bet all you proponents of SUSE/NOVELL are now kicking yourself's.
>
> > > have seen from the discussion, reliability in a situation of power
> > > outages, completeness when having limited internet access, ease of
> > > installation when local user communities are small etc.
> >
> > Ease of installation is not limited to SUSE so that is a NO NO as well
> > the MDK install does a much better job for the novice user, UBUNTU
> > goes a step further by actually doing all the basics for u with out
> > asking you what you need to install but also giving the power user to
> > change the configuration to thier own tests.
> >
> > I am not
> > > aware that this type of evaluation has been done.
> > >
> > > Anyone aware of such a survey?
> >
> > Come to think of it Francis from MUK raised the issue of a localized
> > linux distro and i did not see anyone jumping up and down with joy
> > about finaly being able to make a positive contribution in areas where
> > the other distro's have failed africa.
> >
> > For me i see that as a great oppotunity we can actually then take the
> > distro in the direction that would best suit african users.
> >
> > >
> > > Victor
> > >
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