You are even more naive than i though it you actually believe that opensuse development is independent of novell.
On 11/23/06, Peter C. Ndikuwera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://en.opensuse.org/Project_overview On 11/23/06, andrew colin < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/23/06, Peter C. Ndikuwera < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ummmm.... > > > > I think you'll find that the SuSE supporters on this list aren't de facto > > Novell supporters. We're FOSS supporters first and foremost. > > > > Maybe I'm being idealist here, but there's no reason for the new > > Microsoft-Novell partnership to actually affect openSUSE. > > You are actually an idealist or naive i see "but there's no reason for the new > Microsoft-Novell partnership to actually affect openSUSE." Opensuse > is not a community project it is a creation of novell and owned by > novell, contribution to this project means you have to endose the > contribution agreement put in place by M$/Novell first. > > Next most project could possibly in the near future change thier > licensing to ensure that companies like novell dont use the very > software that has been created by the community aganist them or as > bargaining chips to conclude deals like this one that only benefit > novell and it's shareholders, this would sound the death kneel for > opensuse as they would not be able to package or use these products. A > good candidates for crippling a distro like suse could be the gnu C > library and the GCC collection of tools possibly if linus sees the > light now the linux kernel under GPL3 would mean the end of openSuse. > > > After all, now > > that they've given us the code for YaST they're free to go to bed with The > > Great Satan (tm).... > > :-) > > > > > > On 11/23/06, andrew colin < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 9/9/06, andrew colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 9/9/06, Victor van Reijswoud < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 9 Sep 2006, at 10:55, Ernest, B.M (AfriNIC - ZA) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > andrew colin wrote the following on 09/09/2006 09:25 AM: > > > > > >> I agree i think you must have driven a german car in the days of > > the > > > > > >> box shape BMW or the VW beetle. I just cannot compare a present day > > > > > >> BMW,Audi or VW to a Citroen, renault or Peugeut. > > > > > > > > > > Peugeot you mean? > > > > > > > > That is really trival so i will not respond to that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plus, recent reliability surveys put all french marques at the > > bottom > > > > > > of the list. > > > > > > > > > > I was talking about comfort. And did the reliability test include > > > > > driving in East Congo? > > > > > > > > > > In line of that, it may be interesting to see what is relevant in > > > > > selecting a distro in an African context. Money is an issue as we > > > > > > > > Of course money is an issue but historical context is another factor > > > > to consider any why, if you have used Linux for some time, it is still > > > > recent memory that SUSE for a long time had no FREE version available > > > > for download apart from a partially disabled demo version. SUSE > > > > development was for a long time a closed process for a few select > > > > people that is a NO NO in the african context as OSS is to empower > > > > africans not just by providing them with a stright jacket FREE as in > > > > BEER OS with EXTRA's withheld for paying customers but a truly open > > > > solution enabling then to extend, provide services and and generally > > > > spur on various related inovations. SUSE/NOVELL is not that solution > > > > NOVELL only jumped on the OSS bandwargon when they realised thier > > > > IPX/NETWARE platform had become irelevant, they dont stand for open > > > > source ideals at all for them it is just another oppotunity to make > > > > money for the board. In comes opensuse,,, well we all know what that > > > > is modeled on > > > > > > > > > > Hate to say it but i told u so, > > http://techp.org/petition/show/1 I > > > bet all you proponents of SUSE/NOVELL are now kicking yourself's. > > > > > > > > have seen from the discussion, reliability in a situation of power > > > > > outages, completeness when having limited internet access, ease of > > > > > installation when local user communities are small etc. > > > > > > > > Ease of installation is not limited to SUSE so that is a NO NO as well > > > > the MDK install does a much better job for the novice user, UBUNTU > > > > goes a step further by actually doing all the basics for u with out > > > > asking you what you need to install but also giving the power user to > > > > change the configuration to thier own tests. > > > > > > > > I am not > > > > > aware that this type of evaluation has been done. > > > > > > > > > > Anyone aware of such a survey? > > > > > > > > Come to think of it Francis from MUK raised the issue of a localized > > > > linux distro and i did not see anyone jumping up and down with joy > > > > about finaly being able to make a positive contribution in areas where > > > > the other distro's have failed africa. > > > > > > > > For me i see that as a great oppotunity we can actually then take the > > > > distro in the direction that would best suit african users. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Victor > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > LUG mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > > (including attachments if any). 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