On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Peter C. Ndikuwera <[email protected]>wrote:
> > http://mac.blorge.com/2008/03/05/troika-creates-mostly-harmless-newton-mac-osx-virus/ > this looks more like some prank rather than a virus. its even been modified by folks. it looks like it grabs onto an application but not the base os/kernel. if the installation was well configured for security, i dont think it would have executed :-) > "Happiness makes up in height what it lacks in length" > -- Robert Frost > > > 2009/7/11 joachim Gwoke <[email protected]> > > >> Mike, >> I lay no claim to being an expert but I have to disagree with you. I am >> willing to bet a little google-time and you will end up with unix or mac >> virus info right from news to source code and tools on how to go about them. >> >> >> Regards >> Joachim >> >> > Â Â Â 1. Re: Google's OS Security Claims Called >> > 'idiotic' (Mike Barnard) >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Message: 1 >> > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:14:54 +0300 >> > From: Mike Barnard <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [LUG] Google's OS Security Claims Called >> > 'idiotic' >> > To: [email protected], >> > Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> >> > Message-ID: >> > Â Â Â <[email protected]> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> > >> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Hari Kurup <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > <http://www.cio.com/article/print/496902> >> > > Bruce Schneier, the chief security technology officer >> > at BT, scoffed at >> > > Google's promise. "It's an idiotic claim," Schneier >> > wrote in an e-mail. >> > > "It was mathematically proved decades ago that it is >> > impossible -- not >> > > an engineering impossibility, not technologically >> > impossible, but the >> > > 2+2=3 kind of impossible -- to create an operating >> > system that is immune >> > > to viruses." >> > > >> > >> > >> > I would tend to disagree and to agree with Bruce. Unless I >> > am wrong, I have >> > not heard of Viruses for MacOS, *BSD family of OSes and >> > UNIX OSes in >> > general, Linux. There is a tendency to find bugs and >> > security holes in >> > programs run on these OSes, but the underlying OS is pretty >> > secure (not >> > 100%). One trend that I believe we have all noticed is the >> > creation of >> > viruses for expensive commercial products. Adobe has been >> > the latest of >> > applications to have viruses targeted at them. i am yet to >> > see a virus >> > targeted to OpenOffice. >> > >> > The OS installed on my laptop has the capability of locking >> > the OS down to >> > the point where if something is not installed, not even >> > root will install it >> > unless you drop down the security level to a level where >> > root is allowed to >> > install and run something globally. This ensures that if i >> > grant user A an >> > account on my laptop, what ever he runs will be in his >> > userland. It will not >> > affect me nor try to change the binary files in the common >> > executable paths. >> > >> > If Google is thinking this way, then they may just be 'a >> > little' right on >> > their claim. >> > >> > Solaris have been working on something that i think can >> > achieve this (stand >> > to be corrected), Containers and >> > Zones<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solaris_Containers> >> > The BSd family have had their version for a while called >> > Jails<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD_jail>. >> > Get it from the horses mouth <http://wiki.freebsd.org/Jails>. >> > >> > There is a list of OS support for such >> > system< >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system-level_virtualization>and >> > what they can do. Some use external applications, for >> > example, Linux, >> > AIX others have it embedded into the OS, for example, >> > Solaris. FreeBSD >> > >> > -- >> > Mike >> > >> > Of course, you might discount this possibility, but >> > remember that one in >> > a million chances happen 99% of the time. >> > ------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> LUG mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >> attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. >> --------------------------------------- >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. > --------------------------------------- > > > -- Mike Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ------------------------------------------------------------
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