Mike,
I lay no claim to being an expert but I have to disagree with you. I am willing 
to bet a little google-time and you will end up with unix or mac virus info 
right from news to source code and tools on how to go about them.


Regards
Joachim

>    1. Re: Google's OS Security Claims Called
> 'idiotic' (Mike Barnard)
> 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:14:54 +0300
> From: Mike Barnard <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LUG] Google's OS Security Claims Called
> 'idiotic'
> To: [email protected],
> Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]>
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>     <[email protected]>
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> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Hari Kurup <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > <http://www.cio.com/article/print/496902>
> > Bruce Schneier, the chief security technology officer
> at BT, scoffed at
> > Google's promise. "It's an idiotic claim," Schneier
> wrote in an e-mail.
> > "It was mathematically proved decades ago that it is
> impossible -- not
> > an engineering impossibility, not technologically
> impossible, but the
> > 2+2=3 kind of impossible -- to create an operating
> system that is immune
> > to viruses."
> >
> 
> 
> I would tend to disagree and to agree with Bruce. Unless I
> am wrong, I have
> not heard of Viruses for MacOS, *BSD family of OSes and
> UNIX OSes in
> general, Linux. There is a tendency to find bugs and
> security holes in
> programs run on these OSes, but the underlying OS is pretty
> secure (not
> 100%). One trend that I believe we have all noticed is the
> creation of
> viruses for expensive commercial products. Adobe has been
> the latest of
> applications to have viruses targeted at them. i am yet to
> see a virus
> targeted to OpenOffice.
> 
> The OS installed on my laptop has the capability of locking
> the OS down to
> the point where if something is not installed, not even
> root will install it
> unless you drop down the security level to a level where
> root is allowed to
> install and run something globally. This ensures that if i
> grant user A an
> account on my laptop, what ever he runs will be in his
> userland. It will not
> affect me nor try to change the binary files in the common
> executable paths.
> 
> If Google is thinking this way, then they may just be 'a
> little' right on
> their claim.
> 
> Solaris have been working on something that i think can
> achieve this (stand
> to be corrected), Containers and
> Zones<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solaris_Containers>
> The BSd family have had their version for a while called
> Jails<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD_jail>.
> Get it from the horses mouth <http://wiki.freebsd.org/Jails>.
> 
> There is a list of OS support for such
> system<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system-level_virtualization>and
> what they can do. Some use external applications, for
> example, Linux,
> AIX others have it embedded into the OS, for example,
> Solaris. FreeBSD
> 
> -- 
> Mike
> 
> Of course, you might discount this possibility, but
> remember that one in
> a million chances happen 99% of the time.
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