"At&t tells appple that no video streaming apps, voip apps like skype/google voice/ and no data hogging apps like tethering (or even MMS) are allowed on the USA app store."

That's not because their network can't handle it, it's because it directly bypasses their existing business model and cuts into their revenue stream. Take Google Voice or Skype for example: With these apps, people can use their phone data plan and make unlimited calls using the Internet for less than it costs to use their AT&T air-time/minutes. AT&T doesn't like that because they don't want to be just a "dumb pipe," they want to micro-charge for everything in order to maximize profits.

Video? Same deal. If I'm AT&T I don't want my customers expecting to have unlimited Internet access on their phones in the same way they do on their computer. I want them to think of it differently, and not feel outraged because I force them to PAY for RINGTONES and PAY to watch video/TV with this: http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/messaging-internet/mobile-tv/

Tethering? Once again... if I can get Internet on my laptop anywhere like I can at home, why would I pay for a product like THIS: http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/solutions/wireless-laptop/modem-cards.jsp

Don't fall for their bullshit.

sanga collins wrote:
As an at&t customer with an iphone i can see exactly what they are talking about. It is not the professional cyber criminal that is causing the concern. in that case you have a handful of deviants out to wreak havoc, which inevitably can be tracked down and may be stopped.

but now if you take the 40 million normal iphone users and lets say that half of them jailbreak. if an application comes out in the jailbreak community that is not approved by apple/at&T (like the slingbox app for streaming your home televison to internet capable devices). this unauthorized app can bring down the AT&t network for an entire region. everyone in the states knows the att network is not up to speed for the iphone. the first iphone was not 3G capable for this very reason. AT&t couldnt provide 3G to its entire subscriber base. even this week during the comic-con, at&t users get poor or no serivce becuase of all the people in one location pushing the infrastructure past breaking point.

so thats why i say the amature hacker who jailbreaks their phone, can help bring at&t to its knees. At&t tells appple that no video streaming apps, voip apps like skype/google voice/ and no data hogging apps like tethering (or even MMS) are allowed on the USA app store.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Kyle Spencer <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Sorry.  It doesn't make /any/ sense.

    As others have already stated rather eloquently:

        If a person is going to commit a felony "cyberattacks", why
        the hell would they worry about the legality of jailbreaking?
        It's like armed bank robbers worrying that they're fully
        automatic rifle isn't legal.

    And:

        This is IDIOTIC. How can any reasonable person possibly buy
        this argument.

        Anyone that wants to bring down a cell phone tower or cell
        network IS NOT GOING TO CARE whether or not it's LEGAL to
        screw with the cell radio baseband software. They are ALREADY
        attempting to do something much worse.

        Let's be honest here, the "security" aspect of this argument
        is a smokescreen. It's blatantly all about the profit!

        Furthermore, the cellular network should NOT be so fragile
        that a single rogue cell phone could take it down (AFAIK it is
        not). BUT if AT&T is truly insistent on making this argument,
        then I believe a full investigation by the FCC is mandated.
        The self-admitted fragile state of their network means that
        their stewardship of a public resource (radio spectrum) is
        being poorly managed and truly endangering national security.

    And finally:

        hahahahaha
        and hahahahahaha!
        Maybe if people put their jailbroken phones in trebuchets and
        fire them at cell towers...



    sanga collins wrote:
    it makes sense though. but only because AT&T network is so shoddy
    that amature hackers could bring it to its knees.

    On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Niles Collins
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Very typical of Apple stance these days. They do a great job
        promoting their image to consumers because sometimes their
        claims are as ridiculous as some of the claims that come from
        Microsoft.

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