Simon, what has cursive writing or penmanship got to do with this debate? My own opinion is that people who are good with words (both spoken and written) always tend to end up at the top of the corporate ladder, whether they deserve it or not. And the brilliant engineers who run the show in the boiler room but cannot write or speak well to save their lives, always end up staying in the boiler room unless they are tremendously gifted. CN
--- On Thu, 10/8/09, Kiggundu <[email protected]> wrote: From: Kiggundu <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LUG] [OT] Should techies have to demonstrate good communication skills? To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 12:43 PM > Cursive writing is fading skill, but so what? Simon, You are not going to send the boss an "ebonics" or tweet monthly report and think you will ever climb the corporate ladder above "trainee" You work at Sheraton, Ministry of Health, Stanbic, MTN or Warid or Shell or even my small company and you send words below .... Lst mnth the seva crushed 2wice nd MS outlk did nt wrk 4 7usrs but ISP lnk was OK ...... as your monthly report to the head of IT and you think you are headed to replace the Head of IT in this lifetime or the next???!! I would say if you believe that then you should stop sniffing the white powder and get into rehab. You will be labeled ignorant or barely literate, or worse. If you think that the heroes of the next generation should the Steve Jobs, bill gates, the Google Guys, Linus or even old guys like Buffet and create wealth and industry and that is how they write a request for funding to a venture capital firm or even how they write a company profile or business proposal to present to a bank!!! The guy who creates twitter or google does not care that millions or billions of illiterate people who cannot spell use it and he/she makes money But do not think that he/she is as illiterate as the users. Kiggs On Oct 8, 2009, at 6:35 PM, [email protected] wrote: > I want to assume that message was sent from a mobile device. That should be > expected from a QWERTY keyboard 1/3 the size of a credit card along with > twitter's 140 character limit... no spell check? > Brace yourself for more of those 'ebonics' tweets. Twitter Inc. is > a $1 billion industry and it's here stay. > > Cursive writing is fading skill, but so what? > Fewer schools emphasize ‘penmanship’ as computer use increases > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32925695/ns/us_news-education/ > > > > On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 11:08:10AM +0100, Daniel Bwente wrote: >> A Techie or any one should have good communication skills and better sense >> to gauge their recipient, the student in question lacked both seeing as they >> were addressing a lecturer, ignoring the email achieves nothing for the >> student other than a perceived sense of "Lecturers don't return our emails" >> and we know how fast a lie spreads, once this specific one gets on the move >> even the well heeled students are reluctant to email simply because they >> heard so and so does not return emails, whose to blame is any one's choice, >> blaming IM applications reminds of me of how many times have we caught >> ourselves trying to remember a spelling when actually putting pen to paper, >> we are all used to auto correct and spellchecker we have lost touch with the >> basics so we might as well as blame computers :-) and hey who says the guy >> teaching me can't be a drinking mate, pass by Wandegeya Post Office in the >> evening and you will meet fellows who believe this is the rule. >> >> What we are experiencing is at best a side effect of computing, >> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Wire James <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> >>> Disappointing I should say. Bagye, it is very embarrassing for a student to >>> fail to draw the line between serious communication and shirty (unserious) >>> communication. If I were in your shoes, I would ignore that email until >>> he/she writes in formal English as per the J.A Bright rules. While doing a >>> techie assignment recently online, I was asked to come up with a 5000 word >>> document on a topic. Imagine if I had used such despicable lingua, would my >>> lecturer have looked at me twice? >>> >>> A big shame and please lets not heap the blame on the teachers only, but >>> also sms, chatting, twitter, facebook, YouTube e.t.c. When he/she comes to >>> your office, assure them how you have never been and will never be their >>> drinking mate because that form of communication can only be tolerated by >>> brains that are on leave. >>> >>> Wire >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 08:54 +0300, Paul Bagyenda wrote: >>> >>> MIT reignites the old debate by nixing the 500-word application essay. >>> >>> >>> >>> Word salad here: >>> http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/10/07/0015204/MIT-Axes-the-500-Word-Application-Essay?art_pos=25 >>> >>> Passion here: http://tech.mit.edu/V129/N39/bayley.html >>> >>> >>> >>> I offer this extract from an email I received the other day from a >>> student. Tweeterised, is what we might start calling it: >>> >>> -- >>> >>> heelo sir , am XXX yo student in YYY i just kindly >>> want to help get acces to the sample test . >>> on ma email inbox, if posble . >>> , i'll be glad wen ma request z put into into yo kind consideration. >>> thx >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> Views anyone? >>> >>> >>> >>> P. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________LUG mailing >>>[email protected]http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug%LUG is generously >>>hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>> attachments if any). 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