Tim > > If Uganda is not to become a pariah in the world of the creative arts > (and I include computer programming as a creative art) then it needs > to catch up with most other countries. Signing the Berne convention > would be a nice start. [] The Berne convention does not have to be adopted lock stock and barrel. We have to see those parts that serve our national interests. > > If we in the open source movement cannot push this forward then what > chance is there? Open source would simply not exist as a movement > without copyright law.[] [] Please also recognize that there are some salient differences between software and multi-media
Badru > > Tim > > > On 09/08/2010, Badru Ntege (MPP) <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > James > > > > > > > > Maybe it was not too much of a high horse than failing to understand > that > > their needs to be a starting point in not only creating IPR and > copyright > > but also in sensitizing the whole issue with the masses. My main > point on > > the copyright as per artists are concerned is that traditionally way > back > > when these laws took ground not everybody could copy someones > recording so > > it was easy to enforce and also track down who made a copy of > someones music > > . > > > > > > > > Today even my 10 year old daughter can make copys of music to put on > her > > ipod and even make copies for her friends. Copyright in its > traditional > > mode and the mode the TIM is looking at is no longer a relevant law. > > > > > > > > So let me throw something in the air here for discussion. The radios > and > > all Telecom companies are regulated by governments around the world. > Both > > radio and internet have become the most popular vehicles for > copyright > > infringement. Since government collects allot of taxes from both > broadcast > > and internet providers maybe it's time some method to have royalties > paid > > through this process is explored. The distribution among artists > could then > > happen based on the airplay their content gets. > > > > > > > > This could help balance the playing field but would need some clever > > implementation. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Wire James [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:20 PM > > To: Linux Users Group Uganda > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Experiment on Content (Yesterday's radio) > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > Get off your high horse. While many of us may be concerned about the > rights > > of copyright holders, the situation not only in Uganda but many other > > African Countries outside South Africa is similar. Many times members > on > > this list who are in business can vouch for this, people have come up > with > > proposals, ideas, innovations e.t.c and they are 'stolen' from them > > unashamedly and in most instances by corporates that originate from > the so > > called purist countries you are trying to talk about. I recall a very > famous > > case of one Lugger whose company tussled it out with a giant over > > infringement of copyright on some software. This big company thought > it > > would frustrate the guy through the court process but luckily enough, > he was > > able to push on till the big elephant sought an out of court > settlement. > > However, how many people have been lucky enough to achieve such > justice here > > in Uganda? Few, very few. That is why you find the laissez faire > attitude > > among the list members because we have more pressing problems and > needs than > > pretending that copyright will change our lives. Many times we submit > > proposals for jobs and they are 'copy n pasted' by competitors who > have > > insiders in the organisations we are approaching. It is a dog eat dog > world > > for now and I will unashamedly tell you that as for now, copyright > issues > > are at the bottom of our list of problems to think about. I would > rather see > > Badru's project go on if its aim has a more positive impact on this > nation > > eventually than guarding worthless songs that have nothing to > copyright > > about. Many of these musicians would not even earn a dime if > copyright was > > to be observed to the letter in this country. I remember 4 years ago > a > > musician I helped to get paid US$ 1500 for a 3 hour show all because > I came > > across his music on a website that he even didnt know about. Like > someone > > said, it is a skewed market. Just understand it the way it is. > > > > Wire > > > > > > On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 14:26 +0300, Tim Schofield wrote: > > > > > > On 09/08/2010, Joseph Abdi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Tim, > > > > > > It's because 90% of the list members have not faced copy-right > issues .. > > > Also, since almost 90% of our website materials in Uganda don't > use > > > original materials one does not > > > yet see the need or importance of copy-right ... > > > > > > And again, remember this is a LUG list (Open-Source) where FREE, > COPY, > > > RE-USE > > > is Legal ...with the OS mentality and mind-set, you can hardly > have > > support > > > or understanding of it here .. > > > > No no no no. Open source is only about free re-use if you keep within > > the narrow confines of the license that the software is issued under, > > for example the GPL. It in no way condones the abuse of copyright. > > Copyright is at the very heart of the GPL. Anyone on this list who is > > using a kernel more recent than 2.6.13 is using some of my > copyrighted > > code which I allow them to do providing they stick to the letter of > > the license that the code is released under (GPL v2.0). > > > > Every open source developer, and those who benefit from the use of > > open source should be active in the protection of the rights of > > copyright holders. I have spoken at LUG meetings around the world, > and > > never before found a group who consider that copyright holders rights > > should be abused. > > > > You clearly believe the rest of the world will throw off its > > fluffiness and join Uganda in this. 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