Francis, Nicely written. Suse's been my stability and adaptability yet also my 'scratch hack' option since time immemorial. I recently shifted to ubuntu not only b'se of my wanting to look for something that would help me disprove my good friend Chris Kasangaki's impressive debian systems over my 'sweet Suse'(some small wars hereZzzz) but to also look for a product to help me win more people over to the open source community. For the problem hack unfriendly friends, I found ubuntu and the debian leaning products to be unbelievably friendly(Chris' smiling here), I prefer suse though for the linux application development though(kernel twiks n all...) I honestly believe that ubuntu nailed't especially in terms of default jump starting abilities in networking especially wireless, software installations and those annoying dependency solutions-this was a Big one, ...
I am very dissapoited though! I've never been a fun of kde so on suse it was always sweet gnome. Ubuntu floored me also b'se of the default gnome desktop environment. The twicks on gnome are too beautiful for me to try something else to impress many down into our open source world. I just cannot believe that GNOME WAS THROWN OUT IN THE MOST RECENT UBUNTU RELEASE!!!! OH!!!! SOME BODY PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY?! What was the rationale?! What makes this new gnome excuse a better option?! SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME DECIPHER THIS!!!!!!!! On 05/06/2011, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Send LUG mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of LUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fw: Best Linux Distro for Developers? (Francis M) > 2. Re: Fw: Best Linux Distro for Developers? (Peter C. Ndikuwera) > 3. Linux 20 years (Victor van Reijswoud) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 00:44:07 +0000 > From: "Francis M" <[email protected]> > To: "Peter C. Ndikuwera" <[email protected]>, "Linux Users Group > Uganda" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LUG] Fw: Best Linux Distro for Developers? > Message-ID: > > <2146750291-1307234649-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-649588989-@b14.c3.bise7.blackberry> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > 1. Its disconcerting to know that the 'openness' in most truly great OSS > projects is attracting the very companies that shunned it a while back. > They'd now like 2 benefit from it 2. Bill in the 70s wrote an open letter > claiming software should not be shared (bluh...) Thirty-some years later & > billions richer M$ is 'partnering' with those who stuck it out & remained > FOSS. > > 2. Is that why so many are moving to LibreOffice & MariaDB? Not many FOSS > project remain 'intact' following a 'partnership' with a closed source biz. > (Different agendas, goals...) Yes Oracle bequeathed OO.org to the Apache > Foundation, but imagine where we'd be if there'd been no interruptions. > (Will Apache include doc mgt in its next release?) What's MySQL's future? > (Many devs are having to polish up on PostgreSQL just in case) > > Yes closed source has its place & benefits (loads of cash, fine-tuned > support?) but crowd-sourcing is turning out 2 be a 'better' way of > developing & maintaining a well rounded product... > > SUSE Love: Back in the day, as an 'eye-candy' proponent, SuSE (+KDE) was the > desktop OS of choice coupled with the fact that U didn't hv 2 abort an > installation, coz a package or two were missing / unreadable from a > scratched CD. RedHat had issues at the time... > > IMHO: The best OS for developers is one that offers stability, lots of > options (bells & whistles) backed by an active (large) community. At this > point in time, Ubuntu has all three plus Canonical; who treasure FOSS. > > Francis. > GridWorX Ltd > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Peter C. Ndikuwera" <[email protected]> > Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 01:03:33 > To: Uganda Linux User Group<[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LUG] Fw: Best Linux Distro for Developers? > > Just 2 points: > > 1) There's a reason for the "Open" part of OpenSUSE > > 2) Have OpenOffice or MySQL survived hostile interference? > > P. > -- > Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events > occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given > credit. > > > > On 3 June 2011 16:47, sanga collins <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Nice point Francis ... the future is cloudy (but not necessarily bad) for >> Open Suse with all the politics going on behind the scene. >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:07 AM, Francis M <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Some SUSE Love?... >>> >>> Are U sure it will exist in its current format in the next few years (or >>> months), with all the Novell & M$ sm**ching going on. Think Solaris + >>> Oracle >>> and the effect it had on the Java & OO.org dev't environment. >>> >>> Francis. >>> GridWorX Ltd >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: "Peter C. Ndikuwera" <[email protected]> >>> Sender: [email protected]: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:52:39 >>> To: Uganda Linux User Group<[email protected]> >>> Reply-To: Uganda Linux User Group <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [LUG] Fw: Best Linux Distro for Developers? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>> >>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>> [email protected] >>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>> >>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>> >>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in >>> any way. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>> >>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>> [email protected] >>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>> >>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>> >>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in >>> any way. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sanga M. Collins >> Network Engineering >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Google Voice: (954) 324-1365 >> E- fax: (435) 578 7411 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> [email protected] >> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in >> any way. >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://kym.net/pipermail/lug/attachments/20110605/61c96fd9/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 05:56:35 +0300 > From: "Peter C. Ndikuwera" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LUG] Fw: Best Linux Distro for Developers? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > As proved by their "breakup" with GNOME, (and Xorg in the future), > Canonical don't treasure FOSS - but that's a flame war I won't start. > > On 05/06/2011, Francis M <[email protected]> wrote: >> 1. Its disconcerting to know that the 'openness' in most truly great OSS >> projects is attracting the very companies that shunned it a while back. >> They'd now like 2 benefit from it 2. Bill in the 70s wrote an open letter >> claiming software should not be shared (bluh...) Thirty-some years later & >> billions richer M$ is 'partnering' with those who stuck it out & remained >> FOSS. >> >> 2. Is that why so many are moving to LibreOffice & MariaDB? Not many FOSS >> project remain 'intact' following a 'partnership' with a closed source >> biz. >> (Different agendas, goals...) Yes Oracle bequeathed OO.org to the Apache >> Foundation, but imagine where we'd be if there'd been no interruptions. >> (Will Apache include doc mgt in its next release?) What's MySQL's future? >> (Many devs are having to polish up on PostgreSQL just in case) >> >> Yes closed source has its place & benefits (loads of cash, fine-tuned >> support?) but crowd-sourcing is turning out 2 be a 'better' way of >> developing & maintaining a well rounded product... >> >> SUSE Love: Back in the day, as an 'eye-candy' proponent, SuSE (+KDE) was >> the >> desktop OS of choice coupled with the fact that U didn't hv 2 abort an >> installation, coz a package or two were missing / unreadable from a >> scratched CD. RedHat had issues at the time... >> >> IMHO: The best OS for developers is one that offers stability, lots of >> options (bells & whistles) backed by an active (large) community. At this >> point in time, Ubuntu has all three plus Canonical; who treasure FOSS. >> >> Francis. >> GridWorX Ltd >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Peter C. Ndikuwera" <[email protected]> >> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 01:03:33 >> To: Uganda Linux User Group<[email protected]> >> Cc: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [LUG] Fw: Best Linux Distro for Developers? >> >> Just 2 points: >> >> 1) There's a reason for the "Open" part of OpenSUSE >> >> 2) Have OpenOffice or MySQL survived hostile interference? >> >> P. >> -- >> Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events >> occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is >> given >> credit. >> >> >> >> On 3 June 2011 16:47, sanga collins <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Nice point Francis ... the future is cloudy (but not necessarily bad) for >>> Open Suse with all the politics going on behind the scene. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:07 AM, Francis M <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Some SUSE Love?... >>>> >>>> Are U sure it will exist in its current format in the next few years (or >>>> months), with all the Novell & M$ sm**ching going on. Think Solaris + >>>> Oracle >>>> and the effect it had on the Java & OO.org dev't environment. >>>> >>>> Francis. >>>> GridWorX Ltd >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: "Peter C. Ndikuwera" <[email protected]> >>>> Sender: [email protected]: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:52:39 >>>> To: Uganda Linux User Group<[email protected]> >>>> Reply-To: Uganda Linux User Group <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [LUG] Fw: Best Linux Distro for Developers? >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>>> >>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>>> [email protected] >>>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>>> >>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>> >>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>>> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them >>>> in >>>> any way. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>>> >>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>>> [email protected] >>>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>>> >>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>> >>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>>> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them >>>> in >>>> any way. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sanga M. Collins >>> Network Engineering >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Google Voice: (954) 324-1365 >>> E- fax: (435) 578 7411 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>> >>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>> [email protected] >>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>> >>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>> >>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in >>> any way. >>> >> >> > > > -- > -- > Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events > occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given > credit. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 09:25:36 +0300 > From: Victor van Reijswoud <[email protected]> > To: Linux Group Uganda <[email protected]> > Subject: [LUG] Linux 20 years > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Celebrate the 20th Anniversary of Linux. Watch the Story of Linux to > remember - or learn for the first time - how Linux disrupted a market > and has begun to change the world. > > http://www.linuxfoundation.org/ or http://youtu.be/5ocq6_3-nEw (great clip) > > V > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: [email protected] > Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in > any way. > > End of LUG Digest, Vol 82, Issue 20 > *********************************** > _______________________________________________ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: [email protected] Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
