Andrew, Rumour has it that GNOME wants to be a fully fledged O/S and hence a subsequent rival to Ubuntu.
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On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Andrew Bwogi <[email protected]>wrote: > Francis, > Nicely written. > Suse's been my stability and adaptability yet also my 'scratch hack' > option since time immemorial. > I recently shifted to ubuntu not only b'se of my wanting to look for > something that would help me disprove my good friend Chris Kasangaki's > impressive debian systems over my 'sweet Suse'(some small wars > hereZzzz) but to also look for a product to help me win more people > over to the open source community. > For the problem hack unfriendly friends, I found ubuntu and the debian > leaning products to be unbelievably friendly(Chris' smiling here), I > prefer suse though for the linux application development though(kernel > twiks n all...) > I honestly believe that ubuntu nailed't especially in terms of > default jump starting abilities in networking especially wireless, > software installations and those annoying dependency solutions-this > was a Big one, ... > > I am very dissapoited though! I've never been a fun of kde so on suse > it was always sweet gnome. Ubuntu floored me also b'se of the default > gnome desktop environment. The twicks on gnome are too beautiful for > me to try something else to impress many down into our open source > world. > > I just cannot believe that GNOME WAS THROWN OUT IN THE MOST RECENT > UBUNTU RELEASE!!!! OH!!!! SOME BODY PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY?! > > What was the rationale?! What makes this new gnome excuse a better option?! > SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME DECIPHER THIS!!!!!!!! > > > > On 05/06/2011, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > Send LUG mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [email protected] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [email protected] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of LUG digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Fw: Best Linux Distro for Developers? (Francis M) > > 2. Re: Fw: Best Linux Distro for Developers? (Peter C. Ndikuwera) > > 3. Linux 20 years (Victor van Reijswoud) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 00:44:07 +0000 > > From: "Francis M" <[email protected]> > > To: "Peter C. Ndikuwera" <[email protected]>, "Linux Users Group > > Uganda" <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Fw: Best Linux Distro for Developers? > > Message-ID: > > > <2146750291-1307234649-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-649588989-@b14.c3.bise7.blackberry > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > 1. Its disconcerting to know that the 'openness' in most truly great OSS > > projects is attracting the very companies that shunned it a while back. > > They'd now like 2 benefit from it 2. Bill in the 70s wrote an open letter > > claiming software should not be shared (bluh...) Thirty-some years later > & > > billions richer M$ is 'partnering' with those who stuck it out & remained > > FOSS. > > > > 2. Is that why so many are moving to LibreOffice & MariaDB? Not many FOSS > > project remain 'intact' following a 'partnership' with a closed source > biz. > > (Different agendas, goals...) Yes Oracle bequeathed OO.org to the Apache > > Foundation, but imagine where we'd be if there'd been no interruptions. > > (Will Apache include doc mgt in its next release?) What's MySQL's future? > > (Many devs are having to polish up on PostgreSQL just in case) > > > > Yes closed source has its place & benefits (loads of cash, fine-tuned > > support?) but crowd-sourcing is turning out 2 be a 'better' way of > > developing & maintaining a well rounded product... > > > > SUSE Love: Back in the day, as an 'eye-candy' proponent, SuSE (+KDE) was > the > > desktop OS of choice coupled with the fact that U didn't hv 2 abort an > > installation, coz a package or two were missing / unreadable from a > > scratched CD. RedHat had issues at the time... > > > > IMHO: The best OS for developers is one that offers stability, lots of > > options (bells & whistles) backed by an active (large) community. At this > > point in time, Ubuntu has all three plus Canonical; who treasure FOSS. > > > > Francis. > > GridWorX Ltd > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Peter C. Ndikuwera" <[email protected]> > > Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 01:03:33 > > To: Uganda Linux User Group<[email protected]> > > Cc: <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Fw: Best Linux Distro for Developers? > > > > Just 2 points: > > > > 1) There's a reason for the "Open" part of OpenSUSE > > > > 2) Have OpenOffice or MySQL survived hostile interference? > > > > P. > > -- > > Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable > events > > occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is > given > > credit. > > > > > > > > On 3 June 2011 16:47, sanga collins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Nice point Francis ... the future is cloudy (but not necessarily bad) > for > >> Open Suse with all the politics going on behind the scene. > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:07 AM, Francis M <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >>> Some SUSE Love?... > >>> > >>> Are U sure it will exist in its current format in the next few years > (or > >>> months), with all the Novell & M$ sm**ching going on. Think Solaris + > >>> Oracle > >>> and the effect it had on the Java & OO.org dev't environment. > >>> > >>> Francis. > >>> GridWorX Ltd > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: "Peter C. Ndikuwera" <[email protected]> > >>> Sender: [email protected]: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:52:39 > >>> To: Uganda Linux User Group<[email protected]> > >>> Reply-To: Uganda Linux User Group <[email protected]> > >>> Subject: Re: [LUG] Fw: Best Linux Distro for Developers? > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > >>> > >>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: > >>> [email protected] > >>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > >>> > >>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > >>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >>> > >>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > >>> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them > in > >>> any way. > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > >>> > >>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: > >>> [email protected] > >>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > >>> > >>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > >>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >>> > >>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > >>> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them > in > >>> any way. > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Sanga M. Collins > >> Network Engineering > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> Google Voice: (954) 324-1365 > >> E- fax: (435) 578 7411 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > >> > >> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: > >> [email protected] > >> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > >> > >> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > >> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >> > >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > >> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them > in > >> any way. > >> > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > < > http://kym.net/pipermail/lug/attachments/20110605/61c96fd9/attachment.html > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 05:56:35 +0300 > > From: "Peter C. Ndikuwera" <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Cc: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Fw: Best Linux Distro for Developers? > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > As proved by their "breakup" with GNOME, (and Xorg in the future), > > Canonical don't treasure FOSS - but that's a flame war I won't start. > > > > On 05/06/2011, Francis M <[email protected]> wrote: > >> 1. Its disconcerting to know that the 'openness' in most truly great OSS > >> projects is attracting the very companies that shunned it a while back. > >> They'd now like 2 benefit from it 2. Bill in the 70s wrote an open > letter > >> claiming software should not be shared (bluh...) Thirty-some years later > & > >> billions richer M$ is 'partnering' with those who stuck it out & > remained > >> FOSS. > >> > >> 2. Is that why so many are moving to LibreOffice & MariaDB? Not many > FOSS > >> project remain 'intact' following a 'partnership' with a closed source > >> biz. > >> (Different agendas, goals...) Yes Oracle bequeathed OO.org to the Apache > >> Foundation, but imagine where we'd be if there'd been no interruptions. > >> (Will Apache include doc mgt in its next release?) What's MySQL's > future? > >> (Many devs are having to polish up on PostgreSQL just in case) > >> > >> Yes closed source has its place & benefits (loads of cash, fine-tuned > >> support?) but crowd-sourcing is turning out 2 be a 'better' way of > >> developing & maintaining a well rounded product... > >> > >> SUSE Love: Back in the day, as an 'eye-candy' proponent, SuSE (+KDE) was > >> the > >> desktop OS of choice coupled with the fact that U didn't hv 2 abort an > >> installation, coz a package or two were missing / unreadable from a > >> scratched CD. RedHat had issues at the time... > >> > >> IMHO: The best OS for developers is one that offers stability, lots of > >> options (bells & whistles) backed by an active (large) community. At > this > >> point in time, Ubuntu has all three plus Canonical; who treasure FOSS. > >> > >> Francis. > >> GridWorX Ltd > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: "Peter C. Ndikuwera" <[email protected]> > >> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 01:03:33 > >> To: Uganda Linux User Group<[email protected]> > >> Cc: <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: [LUG] Fw: Best Linux Distro for Developers? > >> > >> Just 2 points: > >> > >> 1) There's a reason for the "Open" part of OpenSUSE > >> > >> 2) Have OpenOffice or MySQL survived hostile interference? > >> > >> P. > >> -- > >> Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable > events > >> occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is > >> given > >> credit. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 3 June 2011 16:47, sanga collins <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Nice point Francis ... the future is cloudy (but not necessarily bad) > for > >>> Open Suse with all the politics going on behind the scene. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:07 AM, Francis M <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Some SUSE Love?... > >>>> > >>>> Are U sure it will exist in its current format in the next few years > (or > >>>> months), with all the Novell & M$ sm**ching going on. Think Solaris + > >>>> Oracle > >>>> and the effect it had on the Java & OO.org dev't environment. > >>>> > >>>> Francis. > >>>> GridWorX Ltd > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: "Peter C. Ndikuwera" <[email protected]> > >>>> Sender: [email protected]: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:52:39 > >>>> To: Uganda Linux User Group<[email protected]> > >>>> Reply-To: Uganda Linux User Group <[email protected]> > >>>> Subject: Re: [LUG] Fw: Best Linux Distro for Developers? > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > >>>> > >>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > >>>> > >>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > >>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >>>> > >>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > (including > >>>> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them > >>>> in > >>>> any way. > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > >>>> > >>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > >>>> > >>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > >>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >>>> > >>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > (including > >>>> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them > >>>> in > >>>> any way. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Sanga M. Collins > >>> Network Engineering > >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>> Google Voice: (954) 324-1365 > >>> E- fax: (435) 578 7411 > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > >>> > >>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: > >>> [email protected] > >>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > >>> > >>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > >>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >>> > >>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > >>> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them > in > >>> any way. > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > -- > > Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable > events > > occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is > given > > credit. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 09:25:36 +0300 > > From: Victor van Reijswoud <[email protected]> > > To: Linux Group Uganda <[email protected]> > > Subject: [LUG] Linux 20 years > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Celebrate the 20th Anniversary of Linux. Watch the Story of Linux to > > remember - or learn for the first time - how Linux disrupted a market > > and has begun to change the world. > > > > http://www.linuxfoundation.org/ or http://youtu.be/5ocq6_3-nEw (great > clip) > > > > V > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > > > > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: > [email protected] > > Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > > > > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > > attachments if any). 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