Cavin has been banned for a week (due to personal attacks, being belligerant, etc). New subscription requests will be moderated until then in order to prevent him from re-subscribing under an alias.
Tim, in the future, please respect list moderators when when we ask you to end a conversation. You hurt this list almost as much as he does when you continually reply to his posts. We need less noise, not more. ----- Original message ----- > why are you wasting my time > who are you? > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> > To: Uganda Linux User Group <[email protected]>; Tim Schofield > <[email protected]>; Cavin Aaron <[email protected]> Sent: > Saturday, October 8, 2011 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [LUG] RIP: Steve Jobs > > I'm trying to be polite. Take this discussion off-list. > > > ----- Original message ----- > > You don't think that your rather hysterical reaction to someone making > > a disparaging remark about an american multinational companies > > products is slightly out of proportion? > > > > > > On 8 October 2011 17:50, Cavin Aaron <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I dont really care if its your last post, first post or otherwise, > > > Life will move on, with or without you. > > > however stating lies and claiming these are facts based on a figment > > > of your imagination will not stand > > > By saying some people are not supposed to be on LUG since they are > > > Apple 'fans' shows that you would prefer to hand pick who joins LUG, > > > unfortunately, that will never happen, so its better you stop > > > dreaming I dont care if you like Steve Jobs or not, its not my > > > business, His achievements are marked in stone, for the entire > > > universe to see > > > > > > Of course different people will like him and hate him, some hate him > > > out of envy, and my guess is you are in that category (remember its' > > > just a guess - i could be wrong) > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Tim Schofield <[email protected]> > > > To: Uganda Linux User Group <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2011 12:38 PM > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] RIP: Steve Jobs > > > > > > Cavin, as requested by Kyle this will be my last post on this thread. > > > > > > You keep using the word "hate". To be honest both love and hate are > > > feelings I reserve for a very few people, and not for any multi > > > national corporations. Steve Jobs never figured highly enough in my > > > life to come any where near either of those emotions. To be honest > > > your devotion to this man seems to me a little sad. > > > > > > Can you just point out where I claimed to be the leader of any LUG, I > > > have forgotten it? > > > > > > Can you just point out where I claimed to be anything other than an > > > individual, I have forgotten it? > > > > > > The fact that people are deserting apple in such numbers seems to > > > suggest I am right. The market is voting...... > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > On 8 October 2011 17:28, Cavin Aaron <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Am no fan of apple, but I can't let you distort facts unchallenged > > > > > > > > Your facts are based on your imagination > > > > > > > > Am a fan of Liverpool FC, the most successful club, not Apple > > > > > > > > LUG is no cult,and you are far from it's leader to determine who > > > > should be here > > > > > > > > As Bagyenda pointed out, you are just an individual > > > > And please try to limit your role to simply that, not a holier than > > > > thou purist you claim to be > > > > > > > > Far from it, if am to add > > > > > > > > As you have noticed, few people have backed your hatred for Apple > > > > > > > > Accept that you are in a minority, and let it be > > > > However hard it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 8, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Tim Schofield <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Well as I pointed out Apple products are between 65% and 95% more > > > > > expensive than identical products elsewhere so I think you will > > > > > agree that they are overpriced. I think you will agree that the > > > > > build quality from the Chinese sweatshops is poor, even Apple > > > > > employees accept that. I think you will agree that a telephone > > > > > that can't make calls except under certain conditions is not a > > > > > great phone. > > > > > > > > > > Look guys, to all who have been so upset that I pointed out that > > > > > the products of an american multinational are rubbish, I > > > > > apologise for hurting your feelings. I would say that if you are > > > > > so sensitive to the feelings of multinational companies then > > > > > maybe a LUG mailing list is maybe not a good place for you, but > > > > > hey that's up to you. > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8 October 2011 16:30, DENIS McNelly <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Cavin, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am down with you, you seem to have correctly analyzed Tim's > > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim I still want to know if your problem is the Price or the > > > > > > Quality of Apple product. > > > > > > > > > > > > McNelly > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 7, 2011, at 8:12 PM, Cavin Aaron <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes u distorted the facts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it a fact that Apple products are rubbish > > > > > > > Your argument of price is flat footed, when I go to a bar I > > > > > > > ll not select the cheapest beer, actually cheap beers are > > > > > > > expensive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your wedge with Apple seems to be price, well let the chaps > > > > > > > who can afford enjoy their bliss, as long as your are not > > > > > > > footing the tab why care > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 7, 2011, at 7:03 AM, Tim Schofield > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Surely it would only be "trollish" if I had not backed up > > > > > > > > my opinion with facts? I did. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7 October 2011 11:59, Gerald Begumisa > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Tim Schofield > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I understand that. However does that not cause a > > > > > > > > > > problem? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This mailing list is called a _Linux_ user group > > > > > > > > > > mailing list, and someone happening across it would > > > > > > > > > > expect to find people promoting Linux and Free > > > > > > > > > > software. What they would find more often than not is > > > > > > > > > > regurgitated Apple inc marketing blurb. This is not a > > > > > > > > > > good promotion for Linux. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim - while your unwavering advocacy for Linux is > > > > > > > > > admirable and very much > > > > > > > > > welcome (especially since this is a _Linux_ user group), > > > > > > > > > I don't think > > > > > > > > > bashing alternative products with borderline troll-ish, > > > > > > > > > subjective comments > > > > > > > > > promotes the _Linux_ cause either. Case in point is your > > > > > > > > > reference to > > > > > > > > > Apple's products as <quote>overpriced rubbish</quote> > > > > > > > > > which people only buy > > > > > > > > > because of Steve Job's marketing genius. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails > > > > > > > > > to: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > Mailing list archives: > > > > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Mailing list > > > > > > > > > settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To > > > > > > > > > unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by > > > > > > > > > INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted > > > > > > > > > them (including > > > > > > > > > attachments if any). 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