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If you participate in Google Mapping Days, know that you are performing
volunteer work for a giant corporation.


On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Reinier Battenberg <
[email protected]> wrote:

> **
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> What the real scary thing is (if you are using the Google API) is that
> they changed their own rules twice this year. First they allowed themselves
> to put adds on your maps, now they introduce charging.
>
>
> And btw, all that nice volunteer work that people are doing for them? If
> they charge, shouldnt they start paying those volunteers, too? They need to
> power their laptops just as much as Google their servers.
>
>
> And then, to bring this whole thing back to Open (which is what we tend to
> discuss here, instead of Closed), when you spend time uploading your data
> to this foreign profit generating 1% corporation, can you get your own data
> back like this:
>
>
>
> http://open.mapquestapi.com/xapi/api/0.6/node[amenity=fuel][bbox=29.5,-1.5,32.8,1]
>
> (thats a list of all petrol station around Kampala in openstreetmap)
>
>
> And then actually use it in an application that is not controlled by the
> big corporation?
>
>
> (yes, you can, if you are poor poor NGO who needs help. Then, at the mercy
> of the big corporation, you might get your *own* data back.)
>
>
> Else, if its just you and me, and you want to lend a hand to create the
> first detailed map of Uganda since 1964, you give away all your data to a
> foreign entity under a EULA that changes constantly.
>
>
> wow, thats a bad deal.
>
>
> Reinier
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>
>
> > But are those hits not also generating Google revenue from adverts etc.
> Are they not hitting you up twice?
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> > Simon Vass
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> > Managing Director
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> > E-Tech Uganda Ltd
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> >
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> > http://www.etech.ug
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> > Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621
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> > email: [email protected]
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> > skype: e-techservicedesk
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> >
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> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > From: "David Lubowa" <[email protected]>
>
> > To: "Uganda Linux User Group" <[email protected]>
>
> > Sent: Monday, 31 October, 2011 6:04:35 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [LUG] Google Maps to charge for Heavy usage?
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> >
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> >
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> > Sorry for the typos, walking while typing.. but i.guess you get my
> point.
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> >
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> > On Monday, October 31, 2011, David Lubowa < [email protected] >
> wrote:
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> > >
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> > >
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> > > On Monday, October 31, 2011, Simon Vass < [email protected] > wrote:
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> > >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15523050
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> > >>
>
> > >> Hmmm seems that motorola purchase cost them more than we thought ;-)
>
> > >
>
> > > ++ Its not the most money they tossed away, usually in such cases
> pre-planning is done its not an impulsive buy as you might think, the
> purpose is yet to be established hower i deeply believe the direction
> google is going on this purchase and push of the android strategy is
> content impressions, which is really there core business, its a long term
> shot.
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> > >
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Wonder if we might be about to see Ushahidi switch to OSM ;-)
>
> > >
>
> > > ++ well all that overhead must cost someone that entity being google,
> so a nominal fee for a service level agreement in which case i think they
> might provide a standard one to the paying customers you can be sure of a
> good service, free does not always mean better service, changing goal posts
> because of a small fee might not be in anyones best interest especially
> long term, adaptability is required and modelling.
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Anyone think this is a little hypocritical? You drive tons of hits to
> Google, then they charge you? Nice.
>
> > >
>
> > > ++ NO i think its fair, thosd hits are burning proc power, internal
> resources and management a price point has been reached aftet a long time
> to quantify the freemium model google has been using for this service, its
> not expensive i think but it does gurantee you a piece of mind, paying
> always does not paying well you just never know, things happen ;).
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> > >>
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> > >>
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> > >>
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> > >> Simon Vass
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> > >> Managing Director
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> > >> E-Tech Uganda Ltd
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> > >>
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> > >> http://www.etech.ug
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> > >> Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621
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> > >> email: [email protected]
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> > >> skype: e-techservicedesk
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