Ok, gang here is some new straight off the wire, on Monday someone will be bringing to sell Wireless kit. I am not sure of prices but if your serious about getting this off the ground there is a possibility to pick up some cheap kit already in country.
Once I know prices will let you know. Simon Vass Managing Director E-Tech Uganda Ltd http://www.etech.ug Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621 email: [email protected] skype: e-techservicedesk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benjamin Tayehanpour" <[email protected]> To: "Uganda Linux User Group" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 29 May, 2012 9:39:33 AM Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror Hm. Actually, those maps from 1958-1964 should be accurate enough for this project. They wouldn't be if we were to be using tight beam communication such as laser links or RONJA nodes, but for radio links they should work. Unless there has been a major land slide or earthquake or some other earth-shattering event since those years which I do not know about. On 29 May 2012 09:22, Benjamin Tayehanpour < [email protected] > wrote: Reinier: Ah, interesting. I did not know that OpenStreetMap had a topographic layer. But it makes sense, I suppose. Simon: Hm. The map pack for the USA is 2.5GB, while the map pack for "the rest of the world" is only 173MB. Something tells me little Kamwokya won't even show up on that map. :P On 28 May 2012 19:32, Simon Vass < [email protected] > wrote: You might also want to try a program called radio mobile. It allows you to download topographical maps and see how radio propagation would look like. Simon Vass Managing Director E-Tech Uganda Ltd http://www.etech.ug Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621 email: [email protected] skype: e-techservicedesk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reinier Battenberg" < [email protected] > To: "Uganda Linux User Group" < [email protected] > Sent: Monday, 28 May, 2012 5:42:50 PM Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror The last topographic maps from that area are from 1958-1964. AFAIK you can get them from Lands & Surveys in Entebbe. Your next best guess i think is http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=0.3416&lon=32.59117&zoom=16&layers=C which does show heights, and give you the opportunity to improve the map yourself where you need more detail. rgds, reinier On Monday 28 May 2012 17:25:09 Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote: Does anyone have access to a topographic map of Kamwokya and surroundings? Before we start speculating in either software or hardware, we should investigate if the project is practically feasible, and if yes how many access points we need and where to place them for maximum coverage and minimum radio bounce interference. When we know that and establish a budget, we know how much we can spend on each access point and then we can start window shopping :) Does the local OpenStreetMap group have any GPS tracks with altitude with which we could throw together a topographic map of our own? (Google Maps is for the most part a decent map, but, alas, not a topographic one, and therefore useless for this.) On 28 May 2012 13:57, < [email protected] > wrote: Alright thanks. But i think we need to come up with some specs for an extensible working design. Can the solutions below suggested by the community fit together or can we pick one to modify as a starting point? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?184997-MY-Outdoor-Waterproof-Linksys-WRT54G-Routers-**PICS**-%28no-longer-waterproof%29 http://www.ubnt.com/airmax http://www.freedomtoaster.org/ http://villagetelco.org/ http://www.open-mesh.com/ Thanks. > Um. If you are referring to the idea of interconnected routers in a > network > independent from the Internet, then that was technically *my* idea, as > shown in this thread. Not that it matters, but get your facts straight. In > any case, anyone's input on this is appreciated, so stop addressing only > one person and start addressing all of us. > > On 25 May 2012 17:17, < [email protected] > wrote: > >> @Why are you waiting on Reinier for this? Why not develop the standard >> yourself. I think he was just offering ideas? >> >> :)Why are you speaking for Reinier on this? Why not just let him speak >> for >> himself? I think he would really want to provide guidance for the idea >> he >> brought to the community. >> >> >> > I like my system of paying for sending and receiving calls. That way >> if I >> > don't pick up the phone I can just say I didn't feel like paying to >> talk >> > to the caller :) >> > >> > Sent from my mobile device >> > >> > On May 25, 2012, at 4:27 PM, " [email protected] " >> < [email protected] > >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Why are you waiting on Reinier for this? Why not develop the standard >> >> yourself. I think he was just offering ideas? >> >> >> >> On 25 May 2012 14:31, < [email protected] > wrote: >> >> @Reinier >> >> :)I really hope you are working on availing us with a clear standard >> for >> >> this community based Open Source Network: we wouldn't go for issues >> like >> >> the ones in the mobile phone systems (caller pays in most of Europe, >> in >> >> America and Canada, you also pay for receiving calls, etc). >> >> I think its after we have your input, that we can then put forward >> some >> >> ideas. >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> >> >> > @Reinier >> >> > :) could you provide a clear standard on which this project would >> be >> >> based >> >> > in case of interest before talking to and trying to convince the >> hood >> >> to >> >> > set up the access points? >> >> > For example: >> >> > What kinda wireless point devices (probably 802.11 base stations) >> do >> >> they >> >> > need to shop for? >> >> > >> >> > How do the wireless base stations connect to each other, ie the >> ones >> >> in >> >> > Muyenga finding their colleagues in Kamwokya or Ntinda or Mbarara, >> or >> >> > Mukono, or Makerere or etc? >> >> > >> >> > Are the interconnections kinda point coordination function to a >> >> central >> >> > 802.11 station acting as the "mtso" or some kinda distributed >> >> coordination >> >> > function amongst the base stations themselves or both configs are >> >> > possible? >> >> > >> >> > Won't there be ip conflicts? >> >> > >> >> > What local mirrors do we intend to maintain and set up for the >> local >> >> > Reinier Network? ( yahoo.ug , hotmail.ug , utube.ug , .....) >> >> > >> >> > How does the Reinier network interface with other service provider >> >> > networks? >> >> > Will the Reinier Network allow mobile devices? (of course it will, >> >> will >> >> > the mobile devices be able to run local skype calls or other kinda >> ip >> >> > based telephony; you know where am heading....) >> >> > >> >> > Thanks. >> >> > >> >> >> Kamwokya as a pilot village sounds perfect to me, as I happen to >> live >> >> >> (well, stay) and work there :) I think WOUGNET would be willing to >> >> >> participate, with some lobbying from yours truly. >> >> >> >> >> >> It would be nice to have a more surveyable means of communication >> for >> >> a >> >> >> project such as this. Have we launched a forum yet? >> >> >> >> >> >> On 30 April 2012 13:37, Jake Markhus < [email protected] > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Man Kamwokya alone can pilot this! Let us look at wifi range and >> how >> >> >>> many >> >> >>> can participate. >> >> >>> If we can get one freenet village, then really hype it, we can >> get >> >> many >> >> >>> others and soon the >> >> >>> villages will be able to interconnect! >> >> >>> :-) openmaps, some costings, a little arm twisting and we are >> good >> >> to >> >> >>> go. >> >> >>> Another village could >> >> >>> be makerere university and other campuses. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected] ] On >> >> >>> Behalf >> >> >>> Of Reinier Battenberg >> >> >>> Sent: 30 April 2012 13:17 >> >> >>> To: Uganda Linux User Group >> >> >>> Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Hi, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Yeah, i was answering like 5 different emails in one, this thread >> is >> >> >>> going >> >> >>> so fast :-) >> >> >>> >> >> >>> A freenet is a pretty cool idea. With the amount of IT companies >> in >> >> >>> Kamwokya, it might even work there for starters. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> rgds, >> >> >>> reinier >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On Monday 30 April 2012 13:05:45 Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote: >> >> >>> > Of course, if we *could* have it connected to the Internet, >> then >> >> >>> great >> >> >>> > success. But it is not an absolute necessity for dissemination >> of >> >> >>> > large files. Actually, if this idea would become popular enough >> to >> >> >>> > *rival* large repeated Internet downloads (with large repeated >> >> >>> profits >> >> >>> > for the ISPs), then perhaps the ISPs would lower their prices >> or >> >> >>> start >> >> >>> > giving us price reductions for local traffic, as the >> alternative >> >> for >> >> >>> > them would be not to gain any profit at all. >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > On 30 April 2012 13:02, Benjamin Tayehanpour >> >> >>> < [email protected] >wrote: >> >> >>> > > Ah, I think you misunderstood my idea. My idea is to have >> access >> >> >>> > > points which are not connected to the Internet at all. No ISP >> >> >>> > > involvement needed. Rather, they are just interlinked with >> each >> >> >>> > > other and with some kind of server for storage and retrieval >> of >> >> >>> ISOs >> >> >>> > > and such. Think of it as an eternal LAN party. >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > On 30 April 2012 12:56, Markus A. Wipfler >> >> < [email protected] >> >> >>> >wrote: >> >> >>> > >> It would be great to have a mirror plugged into the UiXP >> >> switch. >> >> >>> > >> (Not sure if that is what Reiner is already >> doing…) That >> >> way >> >> >>> ISPs >> >> >>> > >> only have to deal with their own customers traffic. >> >> >>> > >> The harder part is convincing ISPs to price differently >> based >> >> on >> >> >>> > >> (local) >> >> >>> > >> destinations. >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> WiFi offloading customer data traffic makes sense to an >> >> Operators >> >> >>> > >> (to free up congested Cellular networks) but they will still >> >> >>> charge >> >> >>> > >> you to access their network. >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> Regards, >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> -- >> >> >>> > >> Markus >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> On Apr 30, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote: >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> Yes, why not? :) Which service provider would you think >> would >> >> be >> >> >>> > >> easier to convince? Do we have any influential ISP people on >> >> the >> >> >>> > >> list? >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> Barring that: How about creating one (or several) Wi-Fi >> >> hotspots >> >> >>> > >> which have uncapped local-network access to a local >> repository? >> >> I >> >> >>> > >> have been toying with the idea for quite some time, and it >> >> should >> >> >>> be >> >> >>> doable. >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> On 30 April 2012 12:24, Jake Markhus < [email protected] > >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> > >>> Let us try to convince the service provider to bill ONLY >> for >> >> last >> >> >>> > >>> mile but host the mirror free. That way it is always up to >> >> date >> >> >>> > >>> and will incite us to pay (less hopefully) to download the >> >> stuff >> >> >>> > >>> they have.**** >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> ** ** >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> *From:* [email protected] >> >> [mailto: [email protected] ] >> >> >>> > >>> *On Behalf Of *Benjamin Tayehanpour >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> *Sent:* 30 April 2012 11:55 >> >> >>> > >>> *To:* Uganda Linux User Group >> >> >>> > >>> *Subject:* Re: [LUG] New Mirror**** >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> ** ** >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> Actually, several mirrors is not a bad idea. Or at least >> >> making >> >> >>> > >>> sure the one mirror has several means of being connected to >> >> the >> >> >>> > >>> Internet. >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> I wonder if we could convice one of the ISPs that it would >> be >> >> a >> >> >>> > >>> great sales pitch to offer free traffic for its customers >> to >> >> an >> >> >>> > >>> in-house mirror? **** >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> On 30 April 2012 08:58, Reinier Battenberg < >> >> >>> > >>> [email protected] > wrote:**** >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> 1 mirror is plenty for Uganda. Rather make sure this mirror >> >> works >> >> >>> > >>> well, than have 5 half-baked ones. >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> (And this is a good time for me to delete some isos from >> our >> >> >>> server. >> >> >>> > >>> happy >> >> >>> > >>> someone is taking over. great job!) >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> reinier**** >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> On Monday 30 April 2012 08:29:05 Jake Markhus wrote: >> >> >>> > >>> > This mirror is FABULOUS!! I agree MUK should come on >> board! >> >> Can >> >> >>> > >>> > we >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> convince >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> > ISPs to provide hosted mirrors as well? >> >> >>> > >>> > Or can we have one mirror at the ixp? >> >> >>> > >>> > >> >> >>> > >>> > >> >> >>> > >>> > >> >> >>> > >>> > From: [email protected] >> >> [mailto: [email protected] ] >> >> >>> > >>> > On >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> Behalf Of >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> > Wilson >> >> >>> > >>> > Sent: 30 April 2012 08:24 >> >> >>> > >>> > To: Uganda Linux User Group >> >> >>> > >>> > Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror >> >> >>> > >>> > >> >> >>> > >>> > >> >> >>> > >>> > >> >> >>> > >>> > Great news!! Only wish MUK also could follow suit and >> >> publish >> >> >>> > >>> > its >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> mirror on >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> > the internet. >> >> >>> > >>> > >> >> >>> > >>> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Hari Kurup >> >> >>> > >>> > < [email protected] > >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> wrote: >> >> >>> > >>> > Great news but can't help notice that you are missing the >> >> most >> >> >>> > >>> > popular linux distro on the planet - aka Linux Mint! (at >> >> least >> >> >>> > >>> > according to http://distrowatch.com ) >> >> >>> > >>> > >> >> >>> > >>> > -- >> >> >>> > >>> > Hari >> >> >>> > >>> > >> >> >>> > >>> > On Sun, April 29, 2012 11:01 pm, [email protected] >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> > >>> > > Hello Members, >> >> >>> > >>> > > >> >> >>> > >>> > > Just to let you know, our (UCU) local mirror is >> beginning >> >> to >> >> >>> > >>> > > take >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> shape. >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> > > for access visit http://mirror.ucu.ac.ug . >> >> >>> > >>> > > Most of the distributions are done syncing with the >> >> exception >> >> >>> > >>> > > of FreeBSD, Debian, OpenSUSE. >> >> >>> > >>> > > >> >> >>> > >>> > > Send any feedback to [email protected] >> >> >>> > >>> > > >> >> >>> > >>> > > thanks >> >> >>> > >>> > > Alex >> >> >>> > >>> > > >> >> >>> > >>> > > >> >> >>> > >>> > > ----------------------------------------- >> >> >>> > >>> > > This email has been sent with the following Disclaimer. >> >> >>> > >>> > > http://www.ucu.ac.ug/disclaimer.txt . >> >> >>> > >>> > > >> >> >>> > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >> >> >>> > >>> > > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >> >>> > >>> > > >> >> >>> > >>> > > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing >> e-mails >> >> to: >> >> >>> > >>> > > [email protected] >> >> >>> > >>> > > Mailing list archives: >> >> >>> > >>> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> >>> > >>> > > Mailing list settings: >> http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> >> >>> > >>> > > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >> >>> > >>> > > >> >> >>> > >>> > > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by >> >> INFOCOM: >> >> >>> > >>> > > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> >>> > >>> > > >> >> >>> > >>> > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted >> >> them >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> (including >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> > > attachments if any). 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