My thinking is that WE (all of us up to the idea) have to contribute to buying the kits once agreed upon.
Ubiquiti is quite good though costly. I used some of their equipment about two years ago. And, software version updates are often important at first set-up to achieve the distances without auto restarts. We could start with independent boxes at volunteer "hosting" offices and an outdoor access router / point. As the "hosting" offices become more, we plan implement the interconnection and redundancies. What are the cost implications for any initial small independent plans (in the name of this venture)? We might not be in position to get the heavier costs to throw up a mesh initially. # Edmonds On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Simon Vass <[email protected]> wrote: > Can I suggest having a word with the Hive Colab, there office is half way > down Kanjokya Street, next door to SMSmedia and they are on the third floor > so good line of sight to everyone else, plus Daniel Stern had a idea to do > something similar way back. Pretty much just need a Omnidirectional radio, > like http://www.ubnt.com/airmax BulletM or a few directional ones. > > If you bought some extra Nanostations you could throw up a couple of links > across town to. Last time I checked the Powerstation could go up to tens of > Kms. I have not checked out the RocketM line however. > > Happy to throw some time testing and setting up, if someone buys the kit. > > Simon Vass > Managing Director > E-Tech Uganda Ltd > > http://www.etech.ug > Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621 > email: [email protected] > skype: e-techservicedesk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Benjamin Tayehanpour" <[email protected]> > To: "Uganda Linux User Group" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, 23 May, 2012 11:29:19 AM > Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror > > > True, true. My initial thoughts was, after all, that the ISPs wouldn't be > involved; this network wouldn't be connected to the Internet, at least not > at first, so net-neutrality is irrelevant to this project. > > > On 23 May 2012 11:24, Jake Markhus < [email protected] > wrote: > > > > > > > Thank you Edmond for bringing us BACK on track. > I really do not see the need for an ISP at this initial stage since all we > are trying to do is BLANKET the entire Bukoto street with a > free, easy to access, easy to maintain (self-maintaining), neutral > wireless network. The objective is to get Kampala wired up. > > If an ISP would like to use that network as a ramp for their paying > clients to go online then so be it (they should pay us (LUG)). > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected] ] On > Behalf Of Edmonds Namasenda > Sent: 23 May 2012 10:52 > > > To: Uganda Linux User Group > Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror > > > > > > > > Gentlemen and Ladies, > > Somewhere I read about a pilot network to be established in the Bukoto > Street (Kamwokya / Kololo) or so area where many ICT companies are camped. > Where did it end? We could begin sourcing equipment and ISOs. Any > interested ISPs would then find us somewhere. > > As any salary earner, I would gladly contribute to both equipment and ISO > contributions... at the end of the month. > > That is my humble thinking. > > # Edmonds. > > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Simon Vass < [email protected] > wrote: > > > (I agree that it would be better with unlimited connections altogether. > But I'm not certain ISPs are ready for that yet, and in that case this idea > is an agreeable compromise until we can indeed achieve "real" neutrality.) > > We had 'real' net neutrality. It's the telco's who convinced us otherwise, > with data caps. Ask your ISP if they buy there bandwidth according to how > much they consume! So why should we? Doesn't SEACOM and TEAMS have > infrastructure to maintain? > > Personally if we go down this road we'll move further away from 'real' net > neutrality until we don't even know what it looks like any more, as with > the way most people think it's perfectly normal to have an internet > connection based on usage not speed. > > > > > > Simon Vass > Managing Director > E-Tech Uganda Ltd > > http://www.etech.ug > Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621 > email: [email protected] > skype: e-techservicedesk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Benjamin Tayehanpour" < [email protected] > > To: "Uganda Linux User Group" < [email protected] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 23 May, 2012 9:47:58 AM > Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror > > > Normally, yes. However, here you must take into account the people who at > present cannot afford an Internet connection, or, if they do, cannot afford > certain activities on the Internet due to it being insanely expensive to > download large files. > > In essence, you can choose between two non-neutralities: the one we have > now, or the one proposed. > > In the one we have now, only wealthier clients can afford to download > large amounts of data, and the not-so-wealthy have either to give up hope > of partaking in such content or to copy the file from a wealthier > acquaintance. > > In the one proposed, only wealthier clients can afford to download large > amounts of off-country data, and the not-so-wealthy will have access to > said data through in-country local-access-only servers, or, failing that, a > direct transfer between two people via the Internet, which will be free of > charge for both parties since the data never crosses the border. > > Which non-neutrality do you prefer, barring total neutrality which, > unfortunately, is far away? > > (I agree that it would be better with unlimited connections altogether. > But I'm not certain ISPs are ready for that yet, and in that case this idea > is an agreeable compromise until we can indeed achieve "real" neutrality.) > > > On 23 May 2012 09:20, Simon Vass < [email protected] > wrote: > > > Benjamin, > > Once an ISP is differentiating access to content by price your breaking > net neutrality. > > > > > > > Simon Vass > Managing Director > E-Tech Uganda Ltd > > http://www.etech.ug > Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621 > email: [email protected] > skype: e-techservicedesk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Benjamin Tayehanpour < [email protected] > > > > To: Uganda Linux User Group < [email protected] > > Sent: Wed, 23 May 2012 08:56:14 +0300 (EAT) > Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror > > Internet is already "non-neutral" in many countries. The only way to make > it neutral would be to make Internet available to everyone free of charge. > This is already done in many larger cities (free hotspots &c.), including > Kampala I believe (I have at least seen unprotected hotspots -- whether by > design or by accident I'm not sure). > > It's doesn't affect neutrality to make local traffic cheaper than > international traffic. On the contrary, it helps spreading files and > information to people who otherwise couldn't foot the bill on downloading > it. > > On 21 May 2012 23:23, Kyle Spencer < [email protected] > wrote: > > > As to contacting Telkos, Its a great idea. Lots of potential for telkos > to > >> differentiate themselves. And the idea has been floated a few times. So > >> far the > >> only services that are provided at lesser costs to users are abroad > >> ( 0.facebook.com and m.wikipedia.org ) > >> > > > > > > To ask for this is to ask for a non-neutral Internet. Rather than asking > > the Telecoms to destroy the Internet as we know it, we should encourage > > ISPs to offer unlimited/un-capped services (throttling connection speeds > is > > OK). > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Reinier Battenberg < > > [email protected] > wrote: > > > >> > >> There used to be an ubuntu/debian cache at the UIXP. Its not a place to > >> keep > >> any ICT equipment so I moved our server to a real nice datacenter run by > >> Roke > >> Telkom in Bugulobi. Now that more appropriate organisations (like the > >> University UCU) take over the responsibility of hosting mirrored data, I > >> will > >> downgrade our services in this regard. (going to delete the hardy isos > :-) > >> > >> As to contacting Telkos, Its a great idea. Lots of potential for telkos > to > >> differentiate themselves. And the idea has been floated a few times. So > >> far the > >> only services that are provided at lesser costs to users are abroad > >> ( 0.facebook.com and m.wikipedia.org ) > >> > >> While there is (still) a local copy of schoolwiki running that is > totally > >> free > >> for ISPs to host or link to (And am totally open to run services like > this > >> under a different URL) > >> > >> http://schoolwiki.mountbatten.net/ > >> > >> rgds, > >> > >> Reinier > >> >
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