Maybe someone more versed in guitar history can enlighten. The only thing I can say from my own observation is, in musical instrument construction in general, a lot of weight is placed on tradition. If someone famous or highly regarded plays an instrument by a certain maker, or made of particular materials, then everybody has to have one! So every violinist wants a Strad or a copy of a Strad. So it goes with guitars. I'm only guessing, but some maker must have decided to add wood lining to the joints between the side ribs and the top and back - perhaps he made a good part of his living repairing instruments as many luthiers today do. The tone would have changed somewhat and the customer must have liked it and eventually the technique spread.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 3:23 PM, WALSH STUART <[1]s.wa...@ntlworld.com> wrote: On 3/6/2017 3:50 PM, Mark Day wrote: I should add that rag paper or cloth was used for reinforcement of joints on the backs of all of these early stringed instruments in lieu of wood. Thanks. I'd forgotten about the use of cloth for reinforcement of the backs. It would seem, then, that many flat-backed, plucked instruments, including folk instruments, after about 1800 have a lot more internal wood for joining back and soundboard to the sides than in earlier times. I wonder what caused the change? Stuart On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Mark Day <[1][2]lautenmac...@gmail.com> wrote: I can't remember exactly where I read it, but I suspect it was either in David Van Edwards "Build your own Renaissance Lute" CD course, or "Historical Lute Construction" by Robert Lundberg, that the lack of lining between the soundboard and ribs is to keep the top as light and flexible as possible, and to make it easier to remove the top in the future for repair. In fact the overall construction philosophy of lutes, vihuelas, viols, Renaissance and Baroque guitars, seems to be light. As far as the backs are concerned, I suppose it was also in keeping with the light philosophy and if these instruments didn't suffer catastrophic failure due to inadequate glue surface between the back and sides under normal use, then linings aren't really needed. Modern guitars are built much more heavily than their ancestors. On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:20 PM, WALSH STUART <[1][2][3]s.wa...@ntlworld.com> wrote: This is a very basic question and I may have got things confused! Whenever I see constructional details of flat-backed plucked instruments after about 1800 or so they all seem to use either solid linings, or kerfing or tentallones to join the top and the back to the sides. This is true (I think) of all guitars, flat-backed mandolins, ukuleles bandurrias, timples... etc....they all use extra wood attached to the insides of the ribs. But at least some earlier (flat-backed, plucked) instruments don't. Have I got that right? If so, why do (some) earlier instruments just have soundboard and backs glued to the sides? Grateful for any insights Stuart --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. [2][3][4]https://www.avast.com/antivirus To get on or off this list see list information at [3][4][5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/ index.html -- Mark Day [4][5][6]www.markday.me -- References 1. mailto:[6][7]s.wa...@ntlworld.com 2. [7][8]https://www.avast.com/antivirus 3. [8][9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu /~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. [9][10]http://neowalla.smugmug.com/ -- Mark Day [10][11]www.markday.me -- References 1. mailto:[12]lautenmac...@gmail.com 2. mailto:[13]s.wa...@ntlworld.com 3. [14]https://www.avast.com/antivirus 4. [15]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. [16]http://www.markday.me/ 6. mailto:[17]s.wa...@ntlworld.com 7. [18]https://www.avast.com/antivirus 8. [19]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 9. [20]http://neowalla.smugmug.com/ 10. [21]http://neowalla.smugmug.com/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. [22]https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- Mark Day [23]www.markday.me -- References 1. mailto:s.wa...@ntlworld.com 2. mailto:lautenmac...@gmail.com 3. mailto:s.wa...@ntlworld.com 4. https://www.avast.com/antivirus 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 6. http://www.markday.me/ 7. mailto:s.wa...@ntlworld.com 8. https://www.avast.com/antivirus 9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 10. http://neowalla.smugmug.com/ 11. http://www.markday.me/ 12. mailto:lautenmac...@gmail.com 13. mailto:s.wa...@ntlworld.com 14. https://www.avast.com/antivirus 15. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 16. http://www.markday.me/ 17. mailto:s.wa...@ntlworld.com 18. https://www.avast.com/antivirus 19. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 20. http://neowalla.smugmug.com/ 21. http://neowalla.smugmug.com/ 22. https://www.avast.com/antivirus 23. http://neowalla.smugmug.com/