Bravo! It is good to hear from someone who can remind other musicians 
and scholars how much time, work, and expense is involved in producing 
a good edition!

GJC

Date sent:              Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:16:59 +0100
To:                     Michael Thames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Copies to:              Lute Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From:                   albertreyerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:                Re: Facsimeles etc.

> Open letter to Michael Thames
> who announced to place a TREE facsimile edition to the wwweb.
> 
>     from Albert Reyerman, TREE EDITION
> 
> Dear Mr. Thames,
> 
> first of all I  would like to correct you: in the  BACH/Weyrauch
> facsimile edition the copyright notice is printed on the very first page
> (in 24 point Times Roman, big enough not to be overlooked). It reads:
> Copyright 1999, TREE EDITION, Albert Reyerman
> 
> Now to your plan, to place a Bach/Weyrauch facsimile edition on
> the Internet: I have nothing to say against that, as long as you place
> YOUR facsimile edition and not MINE.
> 
> To make your own facsimile edition I´ll give you some information:
> fly/drive to Leipzig (from my hometown Leipzig was 400 miles away), go
> to Städtische Bibliotheken Leipzig Musikbibliothek Leuschnerplatz 10-11
> D-04107 Leipzig
> 
> Ask the head of the library (Dr. Brigitte Geyer) for permission
> to make a facsimile of the Bach edition and to publish it.
> If you are of good reputation and experienced in making facsimiles
> of sources of such value, she possibly agrees. In my case she did.
> Bring your own computer, software and scanner  ( I brought my big
> AGFA T2000XL scanner, cause the original manuscript is so big in
> size that it does not fit to an A4 or legal format scanner. The street
> price of the Agfa scanner is about 10,000.- US $. Hopefully you have
> something good as this).
> 
> Than scan the ms. Cause the ms. has few pages, It will take you
> only about one day or two, if you are an experienced  operator (the ms.
> has light brown ink on a yellowish paper. Difficult to scan). At home,
> with your publishing software ( I use Adobe Pagemaker and Adobe Acrobat
> Professional) you can layout the book on your PC/Mac system and make a
> proper edition of it.
> 
> You can avoid going to the printer, have the book printed.
> You can avoid, going to the book binder, to have the edition binded. You
> can avoid, to make some advertising around the world. You can avoid all
> these things I had to do, cause: you place YOUR facsimile edition to the
> internet.
> 
> But again: place YOURS and not MINE.
> 
> About fairness:
> I know very well that we both are living on different parts of this
> world. But I have been to the United States often enough (about 20 times
> or so within the last 25 years) to know that the American people as well
> as the European people are exactly aware of the difference between YOURS
> and MINE. No discussion about.
> 
> If I misunderstood you and you are not talking about fairness,
> but on applicable laws: my lawyers on copyright matters are
> 
> Zipse& Habersack
> Dipl. Ing. Joerg Habersack
> Patentanwalt
> Kemnatenstr. 15
> 80687 Munich
> Germany
> 
> They are highly approved and can answer all your questions.
> 
> But I would like to count on your fairness. Thank you in advance.
> Please excuse my poor english.
> 
> Albert
> 
> Albert Reyerman
> TREE EDITION
> Finkenberg 89
> D-23558 Luebeck
> Germany
> 
> TREE EDITION is registered trade mark
> European Patent Register No. 1 038 427
> 
> 
> By the way:
> I drove to Leipzig exactly 40 times in the past 9 years.
> They have 40 lute mss/prints and the gave me only one source at a time.
> (The biggest source was the DLUGORAI lute book. It has 600 pages. I
> worked on that book for 4 weeks fulltime). Now I have scanned all
> Leipzig lute sources. The 40 facsimiles are not all yet published in
> print. But they will be, one after another. I promise.
> 
> Albert
> 
> 
> Michael Thames wrote:
> 
> >  Let me state my intentions, and I will take all viewpoints to heart
> >  in =
> >the matter. I would like to put these unedited facsimiles That I bought
> >= from Tree publishing on my website for free downloading, as well =
> >transcribe a version for guitar.  Nowhere in the edition does it say =
> >anything about copyrights etc.and there is absolutely no editing, just
> >= Xerox copies of the original Tablature, period.
> >      In the Dowland MS manuscript project, ( see link ) they state, =
> >they bought the rights to publish the manuscripts, and now they are =
> >public domain, and are free to download.  They got together 25 people
> >to = chip in and buy the rights. Now, in theory is it not the same
> >thing Tree = did?  They most likely paid money, to get the rights to
> >publish and SELL = the facsimiles.  If I bought the Facsimiles for
> >$25,00 could one assume = that I've fulfilled my part to Tree
> >publishing by chipping in and = helping them to obtain rights to make
> >these public domain, as well as = assisting them in there ability to
> >sell them.  In a way, it seems like = capitalism at it's best and
> >worst. =20
> >    Like many of you I download lots of music,  But I also love to buy
> >    =
> >nice editions, of the very pieces I've downloaded, and will continue to
> >= buy nice editions, whenever I come across them.  Last week, I bought
> >the = complete lute works of John Dowland, even though I could download
> >90% of = that for free.  The challenge for publishers, is to take this
> >music = which is basically available to all, and arrange it in a nice,
> >= informative fingered edition, then, they can make some money. Not to
> >= continue to stiff us on unedited facsimiles that require no more
> >skill = and expertise than to press a button on a camera.  I recently =
> >bought...Lessons for the lute, by Anthony Balies & Anne van Royen =
> >because there's a well thought out, gradual approach to playing thumb =
> >under, and lots of info. on the pieces etc.  I very much appreciate
> >what = Tree does, don't get me wrong, and will continue to buy their
> >editions, = but on facsimiles?
> >  =20
> >      http://cbsr26.ucr.edu//wlkfiles/Folger/DowlandMS.html
> >Michael Thames
> >Luthier
> >www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
> >Site design by Natalina Calia-Thames
> >--
> >
> 
> 
> 




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