I have learned (in school) Bourdons would be sounds which are not
produced directly (by plucking a string or hitting a key) but just sound
when other tones appear. The sound of a bagpipe is also described as
having bourduns. or the viola d'amore has a second set of (bourdon)
strings which are not bowed - they just sound along and enrich the sound
of the bowed tones.

I guess the english language has a different usage of this word.

I never thought of the bases of a lute as bourdons and would have used
"diaparsons" (which doesn't sound so similar to the german "Bordun")

Best wishes
Thomas


Am Mit, 2004-01-28 um 11.35 schrieb Stewart McCoy:

> Dear Tony,
> 
> As you know, bourdonner in French means to buzz (of insects), and le
> bourdon can be a bumble bee. Why should the French have used such a
> word for the lower string of an octave pair? I wonder if it is
> because, when you play campanella passages on a baroque guitar with
> bourdons, there is a sort of buzzy noise underneath the texture, a
> bit like someone with a deep voice trying to sing along an octave
> lower.
> 
> The word was discussed a few years ago under the subject title
> "Bumhart". (It is easy to locate in the archives, because it has a
> distinctive yet relevant title.) I contributed to that thread on
> 30th December 1999, and, apart from discussing related questions of
> etymology, included my favourite (most groanworthy) joke about
> German lute composers.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Stewart.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Chalkley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:09 AM
> Subject: Re: Bourdons or diapasons?
> 
> 
> > Etymologically neither term is worth the pixels they display in as
> far as I
> > can see - diapason would appear to be more correct for the octave
> in a pair,
> > but it wouldn't matter which one, and bourdon means nothing
> precise at all -
> > not even when you're talking entymologically - (that one was for
> French
> > speakers).
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alain Veylit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 11:51 PM
> > Subject: Bourdons or diapasons?
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > > What is the preferred/correct word for those lute strings below
> the 6th
> > > one...? I used to call them "bourdons" but it seems that in
> England the
> > > prefered term is "diapasons".
> > > Anxiously awaiting public wisdom on this point of terminology -
> > > Alain
> 

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