Are we sure that this is not just a quest for some to find historical evidence to support their tendency to be as nasty to everyone as is possible?
Also I have read that one of the Gaultiers was involved in a murder. It seems that the "brothers" were a wild bunch. Vance Wood. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rastall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Herbert Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 4:52 PM Subject: Re: Acrimony in pop music. > On Tuesday, April 6, 2004, at 06:59 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: > > >> Is this a modern phenomenon? > > Yes. > > It absolutely is not. There are plenty of stories about the classical > masters. Mozart was a prize wise-ass; Beethoven had his moments of > driving away his friends and supporters; Handel once threatened to > throw a soprano through a window (one account has it that he actually > tried to do it). Gesualdo murdered his wife's lover; one of the > Gaultiers was stupid enough to bad-mouth the English king, and was > taken to the Tower for a time. Etc., etc. Do you think everybody was > oh-so very nice to each other at some unspecified time of the past, and > that the only words spoken in anger, arrogance, paranoia, whatever, > were spoken in the 20th century? Come on, Roman, that's silly. > > >> Is it a phenomenon at all? > > Yes. Pop (unlike classical) is usually based on collective effort. > > Your curt replies are given without due thought. Classical music not a > collective effort? Of course it is! What good is a composer without > the means to realize his music? There are horror stories about > soloists and conductors, as well as composers, that would fill volumes. > > DR > >