dear stewart -

to complicate matters further, i've seen the charango referred to as 
"the lute of the andes."

i had a slightly larger, pear-shaped charango made for me recently and 
with this "g-bead" tuning it sounds like something halfway between a 
lute and a mandolin.  delightful.

everything is not everything...but it's hard to be precise about the 
distinctions sometimes.

thanks for your reply - bill

On Venerd́, giu 11, 2004, at 12:51 Europe/Rome, Stewart McCoy wrote:

> Dear Bill,
>
> You ask an interesting question. Does turning the 3rd string of a
> guitar from g to f# turn the guitar into a lute? I would say no,
> because of the shape of the instrument. Although changing the tuning
> may give a guitarist access to lute music, it doesn't turn his
> instrument into a lute.
>
> Similarly, if you tuned the 3rd course of your renaissance lute up a
> semitone, you may try having a crack at a Villa Lobos Prelude, but
> it wouldn't turn your lute into a guitar.
>
> So changing the tuning won't of itself change the instrument. Yet
> what if I buy a large archlute in g', and retune it a tone higher,
> but with the first course or two down an octave? Does my archlute
> become a theorbo?
>
> If I have a common or garden bass viol, and play consort music, is
> it a consort bass? If, on the other hand, I happen to use it to play
> a viol solo (reading from tablature), does it become a lyra viol?
> There is some evidence to suggest that a so-called consort bass was
> larger than a lyra viol, but applying the term "lyra viol" to an
> instrument is generally determined more by its function (playing
> chordal music written in tablature), than a specific size.
>
> I have often been surprised at how important the word for something
> is. The word may even become more important than the thing it
> represents. From time to time I play my theorbo in a concert.
> Sometimes people ask me what the instrument is called. When I say,
> "It's a theorbo", they walk away. The word is all they need to know.
> It is almost as if by knowing the word, they fully understand
> whatever is represented by that word.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Stewart McCoy.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "lute society" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:15 PM
> Subject: a rose by any other name
>
>
>> i've just been given a tuning for my charango that makes it
> possible to
>> play music written for the mandola (g-b-e-a-d.)  it's also a banjo
>> tuning, i note.
>>
>> it's wonderful.
>>
>> at what point, however, does my charango stop being that and
> become a
>> mandola or a banjo?  if i were to use a renaissance tuning on my
> oud,
>> would that make it a fretless, renaissance lute?
>>
>> does an instrument get its name from the sum of its parts or is it
>> tuning or contours and shape that makes it what it is?
>>
>> - bill
>>
>>
>
>
>



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