If this is true I must have imagined the lute prelude
that Parkening has recorded on the guitar and
that is in my music book.

Cheers,
Marion

-----Original Message-----
From: gary digman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Mar 31, 2005 3:31 AM
To: Michael Thames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: Re: memorization

Bach never wrote anything for lute???

                             Gary Digman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Thames" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "lute net" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; "Denys Stephens" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: memorization


> Stephan wrote,
>>Segovia (whom I admire greatly) did much to establish >the form and 
>>content
>>of the guitar recital format, which included playing from >memory, but it
> has
>>to be said that the content of his performances was >predictable.
>>There are only so many times that you want to hear the >Bach Chaconne, the
>>Villa Lobos preludes and so on before your ears glaze >over
>
>     Yes, I totally agree!!!!  So why is Paul Odette's next CD going to 
> have
> 3 Bach suites, and one Weiss.  Why did Nigel North, record the Chaconne 
> and
> a 4 CD set of all Bach, and one Weiss suite,  Edwardo Egez  2 CD's of all
> Bach?  and no Weiss.  I'll tell you why....it's marketed to guitarist's.
>  All this for an instrument Bach never wrote anything for in the first
> place, all transcriptions, just like the guitar.
> Michael Thames
> www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Denys Stephens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "lute net" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:01 PM
> Subject: Re: memorization
>
>
>> Dear Michael,
>>
>> You wrote:
>>
>> "I wonder if lute concerts will ever be on the level of guitar concerts
>> where lutenist's have the proper professional stage presence to not be
>> staring at their music all the time.  This might give them more appeal to
>> the general concert going public, and more acceptance by guitarist's.  I
>> always felt a little jiped when a guitarist would play a concert sight
>> reading the whole thing, I thought they didn't spend enough time learning
>> the music."
>>
>> Funnily enough I don't take great exception to this, although it baffles
> me
>> as to why you would want to be in the company of lutenists if you think 
>> so
>> little of our ability as performers!
>>
>> The paths of lutenists and guitarists diverged 30 years ago - there is a
>> tradition of playing from tablature amongst lutenists, but I would not
>> necessarily equate it with sight reading. I think you will find most lute
>> players spend as much time studying the music and developing their
>> interpretations as any guitarist - it's just a different way of working.
>> The lute repertoire is very significantly larger than that of the
> classical
>> guitar.
>> Segovia (whom I admire greatly) did much to establish the form and 
>> content
>> of the guitar recital format, which included playing from memory, but it
> has
>> to be said that the content of his performances was predictable.
>> There are only so many times that you want to hear the Bach Chaconne, the
>> Villa Lobos preludes and so on before your ears glaze over, whether 
>> played
>> from memory or not. I don't know what others on the list think, but I 
>> have
>> certainly noticed a marked reduction in the number of classical guitar
>> recitals since the 1980's and I think the lack of repertoire is very much
>> part of that.
>>
>> Lutenists, by way of contrast, have a sufficient wealth of repertoire to
>> play concert after concert without playing the same piece twice. I'm not
>> claiming that we always do that, but there is great scope for variety.
>> We don't need to hang our careers on grandiose "interpretations" of the
>> same few pieces. Renaissance music is not Romantic music (in the
>> context of the music history definition of the word) - the players role 
>> is
>> often to detach one's ego from the performance and let the music
>> speak for itself.
>>
>> So it's a different world to that of the classical guitar - please feel
>> welcome to be part of it, but try to understand that there are reasons 
>> why
>> we do things our own way.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Denys
>>
>>
>>
>>
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