There are a number of lutenists that compare with other instrumental
virtuosi, and there are/were a few guitarists of that caliber too.
RT
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Roman M. Turovsky
http://polyhymnion.org/swv


> From: "Mayes, Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Gosh! Stuart
> That's hard to argue with - unless one were to point out that the same
> would hold true for any other (splinter)group of musicians - say lute
> players
> 
> Joseph Mayes
> 
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> 
> From: Stuart LeBlanc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sat 4/2/2005 5:39 AM
> To: lute net
> Subject: RE: mesmerization
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To the extent that guitarists only compare themselves to other
> guitarists, they
> will have no bona fides as musicians.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Thames [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:53 PM
> To: lute net; Stuart LeBlanc
> Subject: Re: mesmerization
> 
> 
> I had dinner this evening with a couple of guitarist's from Houston.
> They
> recently saw a concert in Houston of the Brazilian guitar quartet. I
> asked
> them how it was.
> They were quite pived that they showed up on stage with music.
> She said it was really no fun sitting there all night watching four
> guys
> with their nose's buried in their music, and never looked up once at the
> audience, the whole time. Ouch!
> Michael Thames
> www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stuart LeBlanc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "lute net" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:28 PM
> Subject: RE: mesmerization
> 
> 
>> 
>> In fact Beethoven called his pieces "sonatas for piano and violin" and
> they are
>> considered to be solo vehicles for both instruments.  So according to
> the
> logic
>> of some people, both the pianist and violinist should play from memory
> if
> they
>> wish to achieve artistic credibility.
>> 
>> A program by Kronos Quartet which I attended a while back began with a
> piece
>> performed from memory.  It began with the room completely dark, and as
> a
> slow
>> melody emerged from the cello, a spotlight gradually revealed the
> player
> with
>> her shock of fair hair against an all-black set.  The other players in
> turn made
>> their entrances both theatrically and musically, beginning their parts
> backstage
>> and continuing to play while walking to their respective seats on the
> stage.  It
>> was all effectively done, and some of the audience thought they had
> witnessed
>> something very profound, probably the same ones who rave about organ
> recitals
>> with lightshow.  I suppose they are also the same ones who equate
> memorized
>> music with "the soul of the artist" or some such.
>> 
>> Another interesting program I heard was a duo recital by Eliot Fisk
> and
> Manuel
>> Barrueco.  They some things from the score, some from memory.
> Opinions
> tended
>> to fall strongly into one of two mutually exclusive groups, which were
> either
>> 1)Eliot Fisk is a vibrant performer who knows how to engage an
> audience,
> or
>> 2)Manuel Barrueco is a consummate artist who knows how to make music
> on
> the
>> guitar.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Howard Posner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:16 AM
>> To: lute net
>> Subject: Re: mesmerization
>> 
>> 
>> Michael Thames wrote:
>> 
>>> try repeating the words, solo,,,, solo,,, solo,,, this
>>> may help.
>> 
>> It doesn't, though the absence of plurals with apostrophes is
> heartening.
>> Is a violinist playing a Beethoven sonata playing "solo"?  If he is,
> does
> he
>> lack "professional stage presence" if he has the music in front of
> him?
>> What about the pianist playing with him?  Does he lack "professional
> stage
>> presence" if he plays with music in front of him, as he almost
> certainly
>> will?  What if it's a trio?  I've never seen a string quartet play
> without
>> music in front of them.  A "soloist" will often play a concerto with
> music
>> in front of him, particularly with period-instrument ensembles.
>> 
>> So no, repetition of a mantra is no more helpful here than mindless
>> repetition usually is.  I don't know if you've ever thought about
> where,
> in
>> the continuum from one musician alone on a stage to 100 musicians on a
>> stage, the musician playing from music no longer lacks "professional
> stage
>> presence" if he has the music in front of him.  But your personal
> answer
> to
>> that question is probably of use only to you.  It wouldn't interest
> me,
>> because I don't share your view that it's unprofessional for musician
> to
>> read music in concert.
>> 
>> BTW, I would hope to avoid a concert where someone was sightreading.
> That
>> would be unprofessional.  And I can't imagine a musician "site
> reading."
> I
>> suppose web browsers and surveyors do that.
>> 
>> HP
>> 
>> 
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