++If you have memorized a piece completely you will not be able to
forget any note even if you want to.
I would have preferred if you used the word properly, instead of
completely.
I've seen everyone, drop notes in concerts including, John Williams.
++I have music in front of me when playing with others just for
reference, but I never actually look at notes if playing a concert or
for recordings on any instrument. The music notation is too distracting
Then why have it there?
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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Subject: Re: memorization/Re: Gallot speaks...
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From: Michael Thames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Mar 29, 2005 10:19 PM
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Subject: Re: memorization/Re: Gallot speaks...
Ed,
Thanks for advice. I think your right about memorizing it and then using
the tab as a reference. Just playing through stuff is fun but you don't
really progress, or perfect anything. Sight reading it seems, can become a
crutch one can never free oneself of.
++For some people, memorization is the crutch.
One day I played the prelude of the Bach G minor suite for Michael
Chapdaliane, hoping to turn him on to the lute ( no success) I forgot a
section and he stopped me and said I didn't know the music, I said what do
you mean, he said you should be able to tell me every note of the piece
without playing it. I know this method of memorization is popular amongst
guitar students of Aaron Shear
++If you have memorized a piece completely you will not be able to
forget any note even if you want to.
I wonder if lute concerts will ever be on the level of guitar concerts
where lutenist's have the proper professional stage presence to not be
staring at their music all the time.
++I have music in front of me when playing with others just for
reference, but I never actually look at notes if playing a concert or
for recordings on any instrument. The music notation is too distracting.
This might give them more appeal to the general concert going public,
and more acceptance by guitarist's. I always felt a little jiped when a
guitarist would play a concert sight reading the whole thing, I thought
they didn't spend enough time learning the music.
++For me, it is no different whether playing the lute or guitar in terms
of whether or not I memoize the music. I really don't care if someone
else wants notes in front of them when they are playing. We all have
our own approaches to what feels natural. Some people can't live without
sheet notation. Others can't wait to memorize the music so the sheet
notation
can go back in the folder where it belongs.
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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From: "Ed Durbrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "lute list" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:29 PM
Subject: memorization/Re: Gallot speaks...
> > I've always been curious about the aspect of memorization in lute
music.
> >In this paragraph Gallot seems to suggest it. Baron advises to memorize
in
> >the beginning stages of learning, but then goes on to say he's not
> >recommending it ( don't have the book handy).
> > Sterling Price, has visited a few times, and I was shocked, at how
well
> >he can sight read, and says this is what everyone does. Up to that point,
I
> >had two, and working on three, Weiss Sonatas completely memorized.
> >
> > This for me, not being a professional performer, was allot of RAM
to
> >store. Since that time I have been only sight reading, but then this
seems
> >to have it's own short comings as well. Is there a middle ground.
> > Could this aspect of memorization be a result of the lute being frozen
in
> >time, whilst the rest of the musical world went on to fancy memorization
?
> >Michael Thames
>
> Robert Barto told me he tends to memorize when
> learning a piece. I think this is the best
> approach. After you learn a piece you can go on
> to really memorize it or play from tab, where the
> tab just reminds you of how it goes.
>
> One of the biggest mistakes people make,
> according to a video I watched about
> memorization, is that they work on too large a
> chunk at one time. When I'm learning a piece, I
> find that I should just work on a phrase and get
> it in my ear and fingers and concentrate on
> playing lightly and musically. This means taking
> a small enough chunk and playing it by memory
> while I look at my fingers and analyze what is
> going on. It's hard work. It is much easier to
> sight read. I find practicing in this way takes a
> tremendous amount of self discipline.
>
> I'm not saying that this is the correct way to
> practice. I'm just saying that, for me, I know I
> should do it this way because I tend to damage my
> hands if I get caught up in sight reading. It is
> so easy to get lost in a suite and then when you
> finish, realize you've been playing for an hour
> without a break.
>
> my 2 ¥
>
> --
> Ed Durbrow
> Saitama, Japan
> http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
>
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